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Top: This area is the idle circuit indicator. For a race engine, this area has no real application; race engines don't rely on the idle circuit the way a street engine does. However if you're tuning a street driven vehicle then this portion needs to be a dark gray/tan color. This is achieved by tuning the idle air/fuel ratio. This is done by changing the air bleed orifice size, changing the idle feed restrictions, adding or subtracting idle bypass air, or a combination of these things.

Warning Note: The initial timing has a direct effect on how much the primary throttle blades need to be opened to achieve a good idle. If the initial timing is insufficient, the transfer slot might be overexposed in an attempt to raise the idle speed sufficiently. An overexposed transfer slot will cause an noxious smelling, poor quality idle and poor off-idle response.

Middle: This is the area that will show the combustion chamber condition and air/fuel ratio at part throttle cruise (primary side only) with the power valve and secondaries closed. This is a high vacuum condition, vacuum advance will be fully activated. The mechanical advance may not be fully in. Usually about 30-50 MPH depending on the gear and weight of the car.

Bottom: This indicates the conditions at high load, low vacuum, open throttle settings. This is a priority if drag racing. Using a 5x or 10x scope you need to look right down to the bottom of the porcelain where it meets the metal body of the plug. This is the area that will have the color that you need to study and tune to. The other 2/3 of the porcelain will be burned clean by the high heat generated by WOT and high RPM, so cruise or idle characteristics will not show.
Look for a colored ring at the base of the porcelain. The color will vary depending on the type of fuel: Unleaded E10 pump gas will leave very little color because of the additives like detergents, as well as the methanol. If using 108-110 octane race gasoline, these fuels will leave a tan color while the C17 and higher octane fuels will leave an almost gray fuel ring.

If you study the ring you will see that it starts to show color just below the base of the ground strap, this is caused by the shielding effect of the strap leaving that portion cooler thus showing the most color. The ring will develop from each side and form a full circle of correct color as you get closer to the correct tune up.

If you look down into the bottom of the porcelain and you detect a thin oily deposit you are seeing oil from the combustion chamber caused by either worn or improperly seated rings. This may also be seen with a new engine that hasn't fully seated the rings yet, just don't confuse this with the fuel ring.
 

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1 is a timing indicator, you'll see a definite color change on the ground strap right about at the arrow. Too much timing and the color change will be very close to the body of the plug, too little timing and it'll be closer to the tip. Ideally it'll be right at the 90 degree bend on the ground strap, in this image timing and temperature look good.

2 indicates the base timing is ideal.

3 shows another timing indicator; usually there's a brown ring right at the tip of the porcelain. It should be a sharp defined ring about 0.020" wide. A wider ring indicates not enough timing. If the ring is smaller, incomplete or nonexistent (like shown here), that could indicate too much timing.

4 is a heat range indicator seen at the threaded portion of the plug. Looking at the threads you'll see that a few toward the end are a dull burnt looking color, and the rest are black and shiny. You want about 2 threads showing the heat on the end of the plug and the rest of the threads to be shiny. If you're using a longer reach plug, 2.5 to 3 threads is optimum. Too few colored threads indicates a too-cold plug; too many colored threads indicates a too-hot heat range.
 

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I ordered a RLV 1 5/16" Clamp-On Muffler
Guess it is supposed to be less restrictive than the normal RLV muffler.
Maybe it will help with decel after fires and help keep neighbors happy?

Muffler, Open Modified 1 5/16"

1-5/16'' Modified RLV Exhaust SilencerRLV Enviro-Safe 4-cycle silencers are WKA legal & IKF approved. Designed to reduce noise (4 dB to 6 dB) and backfire of the 4 cycle engine, not the horsepower. Modified and open


Also got 12 qts of Mercon LV ATF shipped for $61. That's pretty cheap. The listing made it seem like a single qt for $60, but the seller said 12.:thumbsup: Should be able to drain/fill/run/repeat a few times and hopefully get most of the old fluid out.
 

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The transmission fluid is for what now? I don't think your goal is to keep your neighbors happy.

I didn't want to start a thread for my 100,000 mile tune up on the Fusion, but I thought it was a good deal worth mentioning.

Goals DO involve not getting the cops called when I take it for a spin locally.
 

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So I hooked up the CHT sensor/gauge. I only had a BP8ES spark plug with me. I put that in. I started it up and let it run for about 5 minutes from ~2400 RPM to ~3600 RPM. I didn't ride it. The CHT only got to about 250 degrees F. The BP8ES is like two heat ranges colder than stock. My first plug reading was with a BP7ES, one heat range colder than stock.

This may be normal temp? Maybe I want a hotter plug? At least I have some data!!!!
 

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1-5/16'' Modified RLV Exhaust SilencerRLV Enviro-Safe 4-cycle silencers are WKA legal & IKF approved. Designed to reduce noise (4 dB to 6 dB) and backfire of the 4 cycle engine, not the horsepower. Modified and open[/I][/B]

So how loud is an Open Header Engine? 110 dB? This will reduce it to 105 dB? Not going to be be very quite. Hope it helps with the decel after-fires. Going to test it out today. I will try a Phone app dB meter.

Also want to get a few CHT readings with different heat range spark plugs.
I've got, from hotter to colder, BP6ES, BP7ES, and BP8ES.
 

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What? No flux-core capacitor?

That is a great name for my HF welder.


I put the "muffler" on and measured dB with my phone.
~100 dB measured about 3 feet from the side of the engine at about 3k RPM. Inside the closed garage, if that matters.

I put the BP7ES plug back in and watched the CHT climb. It was similar to the 8ES during warm up. Got to about 250 F in a few minutes of idling, with a few throttle blips.
 

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Bob making oatmeal:

"Oatmeal was first discovered in ancient times. Evidence has been found in Egyptian tombs. (Microwave times were ridiculously slow).

In the Americas, oatmeal became a staple of the pioneer family., overtaking microwave popcorn. ( Mainly because the microwave hadn't been inveted yet.)

Oatmeal's chemical composition is : X mushy,2 sticky, PRT good, mama's boy food.
 

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Did you measure the dB without the "muffler"? I am disappoint.

No I did not, I will do it for Science!!!!

According to the advertising it reduces engine noise by 4-6dB. So I am expecting to get around 105dB with no Muffler. I may get 101dB?? I dunno?

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In the Americas, oatmeal became a staple of the pioneer family.,

Did you have to look in your Journal? Or did you remember off the top of your head? LOLOL

Oatmeal? Who eats oatmeal? I was born in the 80's. And not the 1680's like some others here. {kidding}:roflol:

I was fed all the sugary crap the TV told me I wanted. You know how many times I cut the roof of my mouth on Cap'n Crunch. Every single time I ate the sht. And I loved it. As a child I would sacrifice my own flesh for a taste of sugary delight. How can I go to plain boring oatmeal now? I can't. I won't do it. It isn't breakfast if it doesn't have bacon!!!!
 

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Yeah, I just never understood why it didn't take off as a bar food. Curse you Bob! Now I wants me some Captain Crunch!

---------- Post added at 05:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:42 AM ----------

Hey...million dollar idea: bacon flavoered Captin Crumch! (Do they even make that womderfull, delicious, useless crap anymore?)
 

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Love the muffler. Seems to take care of the deceleration after-fires.
It was around 51 degrees today I rode for like 10 minutes. Under 35 mph the whole time, so under 5500 RPM. Lots of stop and go. Average speed probably 15-20 mph.
CHT was reading about 305 degrees F after the 10 minute cruise.

So I have some more data. Not exactly sure how useful it is at this point, but I'm happy to have it.

I tried to get video of the instrument displays, Speedo, Tach, and CHT but the video only showed the speedometer which was generally 2-3mph faster than the GPS.
 

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Just for some data on cylinder head temps. Back in the early 90s I raced box stock flat head Briggs 5hp and we would shoot for 385 degree head temp. If I saw the temp start with the number 4 while racing ( indicating the head temps were in the 400 plus range) then I would reach back and adjust the mixture screw on the carb. Most of the time it would only vary about 10 degrees either way of 385 degrees once dialed in. Spark plug reading is quite a science. Plus there is a lot of things that can lead to inaccuracy. Cylinder head temp and Exhaust gas temperature is a lot more accurate for tuning.
 
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