First kart, first small engine

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Hey folks, I've been doing hillclimb races for awhile now, and they're generally held in Vermont State Parks. While that makes for beautiful scenery, it can be annoying to need something at my campsite while the race car is lined up for staging. For awhile, I considered a moped or minibike or even a pit bike to get to/from my campsite, but I realized that a kart is so much more utilitarian. There's much more storage space, and they're just ... kind of ... cooler.

So I found a local who was selling one, and picked it up for $350.



It's rough, with one of the spindles bent badly enough that I can't repair it, and I'm trying to sort out some clutch issues. Generally speaking, I think I did a decent job for the money. It has a strong methanol engine, 3 good wheels, no good tires, and the frame looks to be in good condition.



As I'm not going to drive this competitively, I'm trying to find a source for inexpensive ~12x8.00-6 tires for the rear and ~11x6.00-6 tires for the front. So far, I've found kart supplies to be difficult to order. Any advice would be appreciated there.

One more oddity I found was the design of the spindles. Looking at other peoples' karts, it looks like the bearings are typically built-in to the spindle, and the chassis just has a C-tab to mount them. I couldn't find any replacement spindles with that design, so I'm going to chop the whole end off and weld on replacements to adhere to what appears to be the standard. There wasn't an effective way for me to hammer out the front-left positive camber, that axle apparently took a hard knock at some point. It isn't even close to straight, and has a stress fracture in the axle itself.



I'm much more used to bigger (still small) vehicles though. These are my daily driven racecars. I don't really believe in 'dedicated' race cars. I feel like I've stepped way out of my element here, and I can't trust any of the rules of thumb that apply to suspension vehicles.


This is an example of the types of mountains I race them up.
 
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It looks like I may have a trick/olimpic chassis, based on the awkward spindle design. Digging up facts is proving to be challenging, but I'm doing a lot of reading whenever I find information.

This is what leads me to believe I have a trick/olimpic 095/007
 

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...There wasn't an effective way for me to hammer out the front-left positive camber, that axle apparently took a hard knock at some point. It isn't even close to straight, and has a stress fracture in the axle itself.

Frame is bent.

It doesn't matter anyway. This kart wasn't designed to go straight!


And utilitarian is the last thing I'd call this kart...

Good luck with whatever you have gotten yourself into. There's so many varieties of race kart (making ID difficult) with little that seems to be standardized in the way of parts--and nothing inexpensive to boot. Keep us posted.
 

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Frame is bent.

Front bumper's definitely obviously unquestionably bent, but I'm not sure about the frame yet. I'm not sure what to measure to check for squareness.

It doesn't matter anyway. This kart wasn't designed to go straight!

That's kind of my thinking. As long as I can get the wheels to point in roughly the same direction, it's fine for my needs.


And utilitarian is the last thing I'd call this kart...

I own three race cars, two race motorbikes, and one bicycle that takes me to/from work. I haven't been accused of being 'sensible' by many people.

Much of my inspiration for this project came from Nigel, a drifting enthusiast from down under. He made an adorable little pit kart, but I want to go a small step further and make a pit trailer, pulled by a pit kart.

http://cdn.engineeredtoslide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IMG_9778-900x599.jpg

Good luck with whatever you have gotten yourself into. There's so many varieties of race kart (making ID difficult) with little that seems to be standardized in the way of parts--and nothing inexpensive to boot. Keep us posted.

Thanks, I've ordered this spindle, which looks pretty similar to the one I have. If it's not the same as the one I'm trying to keep on the right side, I'll just have to order a second. If it doesn't work at all, it was less than $50 so I won't complain. Compared to car parts, these things are nearly free. Apparently a competitive kart is under $5k, which is less than what I've put into the roll cage structure of one of my cars. If I come out under $1k, I'm a super happy camper.

As my failsafe, I ordered one of the simple weld-on spindle kits off eBay. If all else fails, I'll just chop off the spindle mounts I have, make a basic jig to get a consistent kingpin angle on both sides, and weld these pickups on.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/B9oAAMXQVT9Srd5M/s-l1600.jpg
 

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Well it looks like we (the forum) are all set.


Don't ever feel like what you're doing won't be interesting (sometimes the forum is slow to respond) but you have hit the ground running and, what a great start. With your background in the motorsports area, it should be intriguing to see what you come up with.

Do you have closeup photos of the damage? I wouldn't mind seeing what the previous owner did to it.

---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 PM ----------

I guess you should do a separate build thread or whatever it is, since this is the new member intro area. :thumbsup:
 

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Do you have closeup photos of the damage? I wouldn't mind seeing what the previous owner did to it.

There isn't any damage I could discern, other than the bent spindle and a badly dented wheel. It certainly doesn't look like enough impact to damage the frame; I would expect the kingpin to deform before the frame would. I've been wrong before, though. This is all new to me.

[/COLOR]I guess you should do a separate build thread or whatever it is, since this is the new member intro area. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

I suppose I should. I'll get to work on it.

With that kind of budget, why bother with the this old POS!

Does $1k really get that much more than what I have?
 
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