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Ok I put this in off topic simply because I'm not. Really fully referring to just. carts and also because its. Mainly justa rant lol. No. Offense meant or anything just and. Opinion. And a little venting.
When I first got into engine repair all you ever heard of was briggs mc culloch kohler honda ect and tecumseh was the red headed stepchild. So of course people think. When your against newer engines from another country its just stubbornness or such. Problem is I was open when they first heavily flooded the market with cheap chinese engines I loved the idea of being able to get a motor. For a custom minibike I fabricated that made profit when I sold it a lot more. Problem. Was they started having issues after. Decent use and I got to researching ect. For starters does anyone know why kitannas required special training to use? Asia had a poor iron quality with heavy carbon content. Which made it brittle. And easy to break. Combine that with nowadays recycled cars being sent overseas NOT being completely cleaned out of plastic ect before melting for. Reuse as steel. Basically. Steel even with the tech we now have is getting brittle and weaker. In all honesty ask a scientist...I. did. Anyways I'm not saying I'm against all chinese clone engines in fact a few brands are pretty good. But the problem lies in there are a lot of engines just being rushed to a poor consumer who likes the price and in turn hears a lot of reviews by someone for instance who ran his mower 4 hours in a year or someone who has too much pride to admit something they. Have is not what they made it to Be. (Personally the internet is a joke for information as anyone even a six year old who's jealous of a neighbor ect can make a bad review) a lot of the engines eventhe junk ones heck they might run for years **** the. Lifetime. Of the implement but for starters they. Are not producing the power another would due to faults. Premature wear ect but average joe doesn't know this doesn't. Understand the concept of dynamic compression and stress factors of metal ect. And in turn life goes on.but besides loss of power quite a few will just give way grenade or throw parts like a fat kid throwing a plate of veggies. And those uncertanties and such can be unsafe. Esp in a traffic. Area ect when you can't just. Come to a halt. Personally I. Wish they would regulate. These cheap copies better just a few years back a kid on a mini bike totally made in china by someone similar to baja had ran up behind. Our honda rincon the brake cam. Failed when it fell apart inside and he rear ended the. Atv in turn the frame of the minibike went the way of an abandoned. House and collapsed welds. Breaking. Apart at. A crash of around 15mph(pushing it as rider let off the. Throttle before then. ) it just. Kindof makes me weary just abit esp when I'm using something with. A motor. To move me around. A good. Distance from home in the. Woods.

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Lol its not mine its my dang phones keyboard and being that its readable and in English I. Didn't. Have time in between rebuilding a carb for. Someone to fumble with the many times dropped and abused keyboard to fix. It

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Ok I put this in off topic simply because I'm not. Really fully referring to just. carts and also because its. Mainly justa rant lol. No. Offense meant or anything just and. Opinion. And a little venting.
When I first got into engine repair all you ever heard of was briggs mc culloch kohler honda ect and tecumseh was the red headed stepchild. So of course people think. When your against newer engines from another country its just stubbornness or such. Problem is I was open when they first heavily flooded the market with cheap chinese engines I loved the idea of being able to get a motor. For a custom minibike I fabricated that made profit when I sold it a lot more. Problem. Was they started having issues after. Decent use and I got to researching ect. For starters does anyone know why kitannas required special training to use? Asia had a poor iron quality with heavy carbon content. Which made it brittle. And easy to break. Combine that with nowadays recycled cars being sent overseas NOT being completely cleaned out of plastic ect before melting for. Reuse as steel. Basically. Steel even with the tech we now have is getting brittle and weaker. In all honesty ask a scientist...I. did. Anyways I'm not saying I'm against all chinese clone engines in fact a few brands are pretty good. But the problem lies in there are a lot of engines just being rushed to a poor consumer who likes the price and in turn hears a lot of reviews by someone for instance who ran his mower 4 hours in a year or someone who has too much pride to admit something they. Have is not what they made it to Be. (Personally the internet is a joke for information as anyone even a six year old who's jealous of a neighbor ect can make a bad review) a lot of the engines eventhe junk ones heck they might run for years **** the. Lifetime. Of the implement but for starters they. Are not producing the power another would due to faults. Premature wear ect but average joe doesn't know this doesn't. Understand the concept of dynamic compression and stress factors of metal ect. And in turn life goes on.but besides loss of power quite a few will just give way grenade or throw parts like a fat kid throwing a plate of veggies. And those uncertanties and such can be unsafe. Esp in a traffic. Area ect when you can't just. Come to a halt. Personally I. Wish they would regulate. These cheap copies better just a few years back a kid on a mini bike totally made in china by someone similar to baja had ran up behind. Our honda rincon the brake cam. Failed when it fell apart inside and he rear ended the. Atv in turn the frame of the minibike went the way of an abandoned. House and collapsed welds. Breaking. Apart at. A crash of around 15mph(pushing it as rider let off the. Throttle before then. ) it just. Kindof makes me weary just abit esp when I'm using something with. A motor. To move me around. A good. Distance from home in the. Woods.

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Umm, what?

Sorry man but, I gave up half way through; I suggest you try to make your way to a PC & edit that post...

I don't know about the motors, but your punctuation made my brain hurt.

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Don't worry my 8 yo daughter read it and said its too complicated for this site

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my opinion on small engines from best to worst

Honda, reliable, quality parts, expensive (what I try to keep on my karts)

Briggs, not as expensive, more common,

Subaru, very good quality, quiet, parts are a complete rip off beyond what is reasonable

Predator, reliable, inexpensive, continuously improving design (gas cap, hemi, cast aluminum valve cover etc)

Other Honda clones, greyhound is excellent, JF excellent, rest??

Kohler, just not that common

Tecumseh: the worst, bad carb/choke design on their popular kart engines.
 
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:iagree::iagree: couldn't agree more...:iagree::iagree:

You know... Its really a shame. This site is by far the best and most helpful go kart site around... And with one insulting post like that... You're only ruining it for yourself. I, for one, (along with many others I'm sure... I would be surprised if not everyone) will be sure NOT to help you anytime soon... If ever. I'm afraid you might go on insulting me. I'm not mad at you... Or anyone who posts something like that... Just dissapointed... And i do kinda feel bad for you... Because you've ruined something great for yourself.
Good luck working on your projects in the future. And i sincerely do mean that... Because i'm sure you'll be pretty much by yourself in the help department...
 
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