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[itsid]

Yeah well- when you're old, nearly everything's new... (and YES, I am including myself in there)

True, true.. I admit..
but there was NO INTERNET 22 years ago
(well not for ordinary people like us)
some usenet and that's it.
So it was there the first day you saw the internet

'Sid, while I've used computers as part of my job for over 20 years, I didn't get a personal one shoved down my throat until about ~7, maybe 8 years ago. Apparently, if you didn't have email, you didn't exist.

Those wrong headed individuals have more than proven that the fascination with all this is a waste of my time; when I have an older cousin asking me for advice because she wasn't sure about where to go with her "what ever" internet game, I just tune it out.

See.. I had my first personal computer in let me think.. 1981?
a sinclair zx80 I quickly got exchanged for a newer better and faster zx81...
*cough* 3Mhz (yes Mega not Giga) and 1kB RAM (yes kilo!)
with those tiny little cassettes where you could store up to 27KB...
monochrome hooked up to my TV.

Later I got an old 286 IBM and I remember I had an Atari ST but not for very long unfortunately... I'd like to say it was a 1040 but a 520 is more likely.. I cannot remember

My first CNC mill I got about ten years later

And I do not agree that a computer is a waste of time,
I met some very nice people on the interwebs (you included)

Most of your heavy tools would be very much useless without a computer you must admit
Computers are what you do with it,
no more no less, nothing but any other tool.

'sid

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Well said, sir! And FWIW, my first was an 8088 (XT). '86 or '87, IIRC. Although I used PETs, VIC20's TRS80's and ICONs in school before that. I used to be right up to speed on the tech stuff, building, programming, modifying, etc. Just... Got bored with it. Now they are merely a tool and communication device. Can't remember the last time i played a game.

Hey- Remember how long those stupid tape drives used to take to load? LOL... In school, I'd hit "load" on the tape drive, and go to recess (class break) for 15 mins. Program was ALMOST loaded when I returned... What a gas...

EDIT- Wow, after looking around, you all may have no idea what the Unisys ICON was. Here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unisys_ICON

 

[OzFab]

See.. I had my first personal computer in let me think.. 1981?
a sinclair zx80 I quickly got exchanged for a newer better and faster zx81...
*cough* 3Mhz (yes Mega not Giga) and 1kB RAM (yes kilo!)
with those tiny little cassettes where you could store up to 27KB...
monochrome hooked up to my TV.

That was around the same time Bill Gates said

"Nobody should need more than 640KB of memory."​

 

[itsid]

Hey- Remember how long those stupid tape drives used to take to load? LOL... In school, I'd hit "load" on the tape drive, and go to recess (class break) for 15 mins. Program was ALMOST loaded when I returned... What a gas...

IF you were lucky and the tape didn't got entangled (again!)
then it was another half an hour of rewinding it with a pencil and another try.

That was around the same time Bill Gates said

"Nobody should need more than 640KB of memory."​

Yeah, that is in my top five "computer quotes"
Although according to him he never said that ... I wasn't there, and I still like it

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."

OR

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."

how about this:

"Almost all of the many predictions now being made about 1996 hinge on the Internet's continuing exponential growth. But I predict the Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996 catastrophically collapse."

and of course:

"Two years from now, spam will be solved."

'sid

 

[supermanotorious]

envelope went out with today's mail!

 

[mckutzy]

I see the logo on top of the page now in each tab(Im with firefox), thats cool.

Just got to go out in the SNOW(it just fell yesterday...) to get a 10 spot.

 

[ML-TOYS]

Back to the stickers, when do expect to send em out ?
My cars are waiting for them

 

[RobertD]

Will start sending them tomorrow. I got the first envelope today (souperman000, the USPS favored you) and all the paypal stuff.

 

[machinist@large]

True, true.. I admit..
but there was NO INTERNET 22 years ago
(well not for ordinary people like us)
some usenet and that's it.
So it was there the first day you saw the internet



See.. I had my first personal computer in let me think.. 1981?
a sinclair zx80 I quickly got exchanged for a newer better and faster zx81...
*cough* 3Mhz (yes Mega not Giga) and 1kB RAM (yes kilo!)
with those tiny little cassettes where you could store up to 27KB...
monochrome hooked up to my TV.

Later I got an old 286 IBM and I remember I had an Atari ST but not for very long unfortunately... I'd like to say it was a 1040 but a 520 is more likely.. I cannot remember

My first CNC mill I got about ten years later

And I do not agree that a computer is a waste of time,
I met some very nice people on the interwebs (you included)

Most of your heavy tools would be very much useless without a computer you must admit
Computers are what you do with it,
no more no less, nothing but any other tool.

'sid

'Sid, I wasn't trying to prove that computers are a waste of time, it's just that I hear about so many "Cool, Killer Apps" that have absolutely nothing to do with me, that I tune as much of the BS out....

Internet browsers fall into the category of a necessary evil; if their so called "Up Dates" actually fixed a problem for me, I would be like "Great!!". When their idea of an "Up Date/ Up Grade" hands me a totally alien "Thing" instead of the software that I was just starting to understand, I tend to get a little .

As far as the computers (and the software they run) that I use at work are concerned, we use Cimco for editing and drip feeding the programs to the control's, and several DOS based spread sheets for accessing/ editing/ modifying the tool path programs; the newest operating system I've run across on the shops floor computers is Windows XP (~6 to 8 boxes), there are several that are still running Windows '98.

Why do they run these old systems? Because the bugs have been found and fixed; and as long as the hardware still fires up on command, they still do the job they were purchased for....

I'm younger than Bill Gates (he could be my father, age wise), and if I can't follow his head long rush to "Where Ever"...

 

[itsid]

See..
and the last computer question I had I directed at you, remember

I love xp... little low on memory, but compared to win7 bulletproof
And of course all main CNC control run in a real time OS
(afaik they must, otherwise an endswitch maynot be heard fast enough )

And on a win machine that means DOS.

So Pat, we're at about the same age then

BTT: .. tomorrow?
great, if all goes well, that means I have my stickers in April *gg*

'sid

PS yes.. snail mail is just that..

 

[OzFab]

BTT: .. tomorrow?
great, if all goes well, that means I have my stickers in April *gg*

'sid

PS yes.. snail mail is just that..

Ok, the race is on, who'll get theirs first, you, me or Paul?

 

[landuse]

Ok, the race is on, who'll get theirs first, you, me or Paul?

It's gotta be me. The 3 week postal strike is finnished and I am sure they are working double time (I wish....). Our postal system is a little bit slow

 

[OzFab]

After a strike, I'm sure they're not...

 

[ML-TOYS]

Got mine in the mail today. Thanks.
Wooooo hooooo

 

[mckutzy]

Just sent off my order. going to get a few of them.

 

[qtband]

Got all mine today! Thanks!

 

[itsid]

..and mine is probably at Houston Harbour trying to get onboard some fisherboat to the Bahamas...
And after a relaxing spa weekend,
it'll continue on right to the Bermuda triangle where it'll time travel into the future

I'd imagine it's on the same boat as Paul's right now..

'sid

PS We'll never make it in time for the contest

 

[landuse]

..and mine is probably at Houston Harbour trying to get onboard some fisherboat to the Bahamas...
And after a relaxing spa weekend,
it'll continue on right to the Bermuda triangle where it'll time travel into the future

I'd imagine it's on the same boat as Paul's right now..

'sid

PS We'll never make it in time for the contest

Yours goes by boat? Your are lucky. South African mail gets sent by carrier pidgeon , and they can only take a few letters at a time...

 

[Doc Sprocket]

Puh-LEEZE!

Eskimoes wearing snowshoes, here... Hahahahahaaa!

 

[OzFab]

PS We'll never make it in time for the contest

Relax Alex, you forget, Paul & I get a say in when competitions start & finish

Yours goes by boat? Your are lucky. South African mail gets sent by carrier pidgeon , and they can only take a few letters at a time...

Puh-LEEZE!

Eskimoes wearing snowshoes, here... Hahahahahaaa!

Would you believe kangaroo?

Hey, an eskimo can carry a big sack of mail...