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Now now, let's not get stereotypical ;)
I think it is safe to say that every 'kid' on this forum is unlike the one in that story.
Myself, being 16, know first hand what you are on about. The amount of kids at school with £500 iPhones and £15000 first cars sickens me!
My parents attitude is probably correct, most of the time if I want something, I have to pay for it and save for it.

Although I'm only 13 I know what your talking about. Me unlike every other teenager I ride go karts. I have a iPod and a old Samsung cell phone. I grew up driving tractors so I'm pretty much a redneck. God kids theses days are stupid

:iagree: That's why I used the term most kids. My 8yo daughter is more mechanically minded than her 17yo brother, but not as much as her 21yo brother. There's always exceptions to every rule...

I once read a non-fiction account about "kids these days".

That story went on and on about how the current generation of kids didnt respect traditions, their parents values, laws and were just a completely worthless generation that would totally screw the whole world up.

Now a days you hear people saying stuff like that all the time, including this thread.

But the thing that really stuck me about this particular story I'd read, Is that it was dated back like in the year 1600 or so...

That date kinda puts things in perspective and makes ya think, huh?

Indeed it does... Every generation changes society a little;
100 years ago, it was illegal to swim at a beach in daylight hours &, when you did swim, even though it was dark, you had to be covered from neck to knee. 50 years ago you could swim at a beach whenever you want wearing so little that there was not much left to the imagination.

A few years ago I recieved an email which pointed out that anyone who was less than 20yo now has never know life without computers, the internet, mobile/cell phones, CDs, the list goes on. All this technology that is meant to make our lives easier & more interesting is turning kids of today into lazy, clueless hermits; ask them to program the PVR & it's a snap but, ask them to start a lawnmower & most wouldn't have a clue...
 

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That story went on and on about how the current generation of kids didnt respect traditions, their parents values, laws and were just a completely worthless generation that would totally screw the whole world up.

Every generation does this. Think about what the Greatest Generation thought about the Baby Boomers.
 

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Every generation does this. Think about what the Greatest Generation thought about the Baby Boomers.

Yep, my parents were from the greatest generation and I'm a boomer. When I was young I cant tell you how many times I heard the older folks tell me the world was gonna go to "hell in a hand basket" when my generation got in power.


Turns out those old farts were actually right. I admit the boomers really have screwed the whole world up,
and it isnt looking like generation X, Y or Z are gonna be much better... ;)
 

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My parents are also GGs, my older siblings are BBs, I'm a gen X, My kids are Gen Y & one Gen Z. IMO, if any generation is gonna save the planet (if it's still salvagable by then) it will be Gen Z. They are the most technologically advanced generation to date &, judging by the gen Zs that I know, they're a more driven & naturally intelligent generation as a whole.

BTW: How aptly named is Gen Y (why) :roflol:
 

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@ Fabroman, yeah I lived in a town in Illinois called des plaines, I knew a kid that went to school with me ad I had him come over once and he's just looking at my tractors like why does he have thse, I told him I would give him $20 if he could drive it down the drive way. Long story short he never got down the drive way. He almost ruined my tranny because he just let go of the clutch instantly popping a wheely. And well I am mechanically smart but ain't doing well in school. (I know i know your Gunna tell me to do good in school) but anyways kids today don't know how to do anything with a motor. Good luck getting one of them cutting grass.
 

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It dawned on me: How much would it have cost her if we hadn't been there? She would have called a tow truck. While traffic backed up a cop would have showed up. She would have been ticketed even though it was one vehicle, she was at fault. Then she would have had it towed to a shop to fix the damage and claimed it all on insurance where her rates would have gone up.

This is the dependant age we live in. Fortunately my neighbors and me are still neighborly. We had skill, resources and knowlege. She was out before traffic could back up so no ticket...no harm no foul. And the body shop quickly assessed that it was just some broken clips. She got it fixed for free.

No expense plus both me and the body shop have a customer for life.

I'm proud of all the under 20s on here for sharing this rant. If you have a chance, share your skills...TEACH your skills and be neighborly...maybe it'll spread!

Edit: I know it's not like this everywhere but in Dallas/Ft. Worth it seems like everyone is estranged. If you still have neighborly neighbors please share!
 
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Edit: I know it's not like this everywhere but in Dallas/Ft. Worth it seems like everyone is estranged. If you still have neighborly neighbors please share!

It is not just in the states that neighbors are estranged. Over here, neighbours never speak to each other anymore. You can live next to the same people and not even know their name, let alone have a phone number of theirs to call if something goes wrong.

I try and get to know my neighbours, even if it just on a "hello" basis. If someone moves in next door I usually go around and have a chat/say hello. Sometimes they are quite wary of your motives. That type of thing just doesn't happen anymore.
 

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Yup! I think my neigborhood is an anomily.

And speaking of "kids these days," we took ours to meet the teacher today. One actually said, "Yay! School starts tomorrow, no more summer!":confused:

Seesh! Kids these days!

In her defense she starts kindergarten and has been excited all summer. That will wane after a week:surrender:
 

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Good luck getting one of them cutting grass.

I didn't say anything about using the mower...

It is not just in the states that neighbors are estranged. Over here, neighbours never speak to each other anymore. You can live next to the same people and not even know their name, let alone have a phone number of theirs to call if something goes wrong.

I try and get to know my neighbours, even if it just on a "hello" basis. If someone moves in next door I usually go around and have a chat/say hello. Sometimes they are quite wary of your motives. That type of thing just doesn't happen anymore.

It's not easy these days. Everyone lives in thier own little bubble & has the "don't get involved" attitude; there's no trust anymore...
 

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I have to admit, kids these days are pretty bad. I'm only 18 so I'm still unfortunately part of this stupid generation. I am far different from my peers though. I have an old used flip phone, 7 year old laptop that I bought with my own money, and an xbox 360 I bought with my own money. I drive an old blazer that my dad bought for $800 and haven't wrecked it yet.

Unlike most people my age, I'm actually mechanically inclined, although I've only been "into" cars for 2 or 3 years. Yeah, a few years ago I couldn't even tell you what a cam is. I've always like older cars but never got into the mechanical part of them until I had to fix my blazer. After these few years I'm already getting ready to build an AMC 360 for a Jeep J10 that I'm rebuilding. I try to get my friends involved in doing these sort of things and have only succeeded with a few of them.

If only kids were more like those of us on this forum, the future wouldn't look so glum. While the kids do have to make their own decisions, their parents are to blame for the way they have raised kids. I was always allowed to do whatever I wanted, but I also knew the consequences for my actions. Parents these days are just too out of touch with their children, that's what is wrong with kids these days. Also, many parents are just too over protective which pushes their kids away from them. Maybe it's the parents we should be mad at, not just the kids.
 

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Ah... I'm pretty sure every generation goes through the old "what is it with kids these days" routine. The only major difference now is the easy availability of high tech distractions. You know, like the forum we're all busy reading. ;)
 

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I think this is pretty much what happens with every generation. Maybe not quite as bad as now, but as technology progresses ie: Radio-TV-Comnputers the generation of the past is going to complain about the generation of the future. This has happened over and over because, put simply, things change over time. Am I much like my most of my generation as in being not mechanically inclined...no, but I do believe some day I will be complaining about "kids these days".

Edit: and even if the kid in this example was not mechanically inclined, he still should have been trying to help in anyway possible.
 

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I have to admit, kids these days are pretty bad. I'm only 18 so I'm still unfortunately part of this stupid generation. I am far different from my peers though. I have an old used flip phone, 7 year old laptop that I bought with my own money, and an xbox 360 I bought with my own money. I drive an old blazer that my dad bought for $800 and haven't wrecked it yet.

Unlike most people my age, I'm actually mechanically inclined, although I've only been "into" cars for 2 or 3 years. Yeah, a few years ago I couldn't even tell you what a cam is. I've always like older cars but never got into the mechanical part of them until I had to fix my blazer. After these few years I'm already getting ready to build an AMC 360 for a Jeep J10 that I'm rebuilding. I try to get my friends involved in doing these sort of things and have only succeeded with a few of them.

If only kids were more like those of us on this forum, the future wouldn't look so glum. While the kids do have to make their own decisions, their parents are to blame for the way they have raised kids. I was always allowed to do whatever I wanted, but I also knew the consequences for my actions. Parents these days are just too out of touch with their children, that's what is wrong with kids these days. Also, many parents are just too over protective which pushes their kids away from them. Maybe it's the parents we should be mad at, not just the kids.

This make you the inevitable exception to the rule. Good on you for standing out from the crowd :thumbsup:
 

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It is undeniable that every generation looks at subsequent generations and laments, "Kids these days...". It is also undeniable that the effect is worstening. I fear that we ourselves are to blame. Why?

Who's raising the subesquent generations? The previous generations, that's who! I look around and see kids with no manners, no social skills, and a HUGE sense of entitlement. Why?

Blame computers? Internet? iPhones? Not entirely. A kid isn't simply born with an XBOX and a Bimmer- somebody must put it in his hands.

I honestly think that a vast portion of the problem boils down to, "I want my kids to have a better life than I had". This manifests itself as ever-decreasing discipline and responsibility in the household, growing up. "Dang, I hated "chores" when I was growing up, I'm not going to make little Lucy do them!". Or, "My first car was a trashed 1977 Celica that leaked fluids it didn't even have, so I'm gonna buy little Colton a new car so he doesn't have to worry about repairs." Ultimately, what do we have? Vast numbers of spoon-fed little oxygen processors that just couldn't cope with reality.

Any parents with school-age kids on here might see things like this: There is NO failing a kid in school anymore. It does not matter how far behind the program the kid is, we can't hurt their little ego by failing them, so they just get jammed through to the next grade. The result? Graduates that can't spell. Or find Romania on a map. Or whatever.

One of a million examples I have- My younger son was having difficulty learning how to print legibly. I noticed that his worksheets were not the "classic" style- you know the one- two solid horizontal lines with a dashed line in between- so that the kid would have a basic format to size and shape the letters. Nope. These sheets were just a blank page. Say, an "A" and a big blank space. then below that, an "a" and a blank space! Meet-the-teacher night came along, and I asked her where the lines were. "Oh, we don't use lines, they are too constraining"! WTF? So how the he// is my child to learn how to print? You would not believe her suggestions. Things like- "put some hair gel in a baggie and have him write on it with his finger. Or a baking pan with a layer of sand in it."

I said, "Brilliant. I can just see my son at 25 years old. He's on his way to his boss' office with his Betty Crocker Etch-A-Sketch, bucking for a raise. Halfway there, he trips on the shoelace that nobody taught him to tie. Now what?"

Back when I was a teen, and my mother was in her mid 30's, she went back to college. Because of her "advanced" age, her professors often employed her assistance marking papers. I remember one evening she was sitting at the desk in the living room, muttering under her breath with a stack of papers before her. I asked what was going on. She split the stack and handed me half, "Read these!" I did. Brutal. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar be dammed. And remember folks- this was before the internet, or textspeak! This was the late 1980's. College students, maybe 5 years older than I. Pathetic.

I could give you tens of examples in this vein. Unfortunately, they all lead to the same political rant- which obviously, I cannot get into here.

Yes- there are some wonderful kids out there! Smart, well-mannered, educated, social, able kids, that give a glimmer of hope to the future. Nowhere near as many as there should be. This is why I am more than happy to see younger folks on this forum- kids that are willing to learn, willing to get dirty, willing to turn a wrench. Good on you guys! (And the occasional girl!).

Oh- and one more point. Every now and then, I will see someone butcher a post, and another member will suggest he use "spell check". Spell check? THIS IS THE PROBLEM!!! Spell check is for when you tend to screw up "their" and "thier", or you just cannot seem to get through "governor" without goofing. Spell check is for a slip of the finger while typing, and you've just blown through an entire paragraph without noticing your error! Spell check is NOT a substitute for learning how to bloody spell!
 
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Not to detract from the post, because I agree with every word of it, but I couldn't stop hearing The Battle Hymn of the Republic in my head as I was reading it.

"Glory, glory hallelujah" (that is now stuck in your head as well, you're welcome :devil2:)
 

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It is undeniable that every generation looks at subsequent generations and laments, "Kids these days...". It is also undeniable that the effect is worstening. I fear that we ourselves are to blame. Why?

Who's raising the subesquent generations? The previous generations, that's who! I look around and see kids with no manners, no social skills, and a HUGE sense of entitlement. Why?

Blame computers? Internet? iPhones? Not entirely. A kid isn't simply born with an XBOX and a Bimmer- somebody must put it in his hands.

I honestly think that a vast portion of the problem boils down to, "I want my kids to have a better life than I had". This manifests itself as ever-decreasing discipline and responsibility in the household, growing up. "Dang, I hated "chores" when I was growing up, I'm not going to make little Lucy do them!". Or, "My first car was a trashed 1977 Celica that leaked fluids it didn't even have, so I'm gonna buy little Colton a new car so he doesn't have to worry about repairs." Ultimately, what do we have? Vast numbers of spoon-fed little oxygen processors that just couldn't cope with reality.

Any parents with school-age kids on here might see things like this: There is NO failing a kid in school anymore. It does not matter how far behind the program the kid is, we can't hurt their little ego by failing them, so they just get jammed through to the next grade. The result? Graduates that can't spell. Or find Romania on a map. Or whatever.

One of a million examples I have- My younger son was having difficulty learning how to print legibly. I noticed that his worksheets were not the "classic" style- you know the one- two solid horizontal lines with a dashed line in between- so that the kid would have a basic format to size and shape the letters. Nope. These sheets were just a black page. Say, an "A" and a big blank space. then below that, an "a" and a blank space! Meet-the-teacher night came along, and I asked her where the lines were. "Oh, we don't use lines, they are too constraining"! WTF? So how the he// is my child to learn how to print? You would not believe her suggestions. Things like- "put some hair gel in a baggie and have him write on it with his finger. Or a baking pan with a layer of sand in it."

I said, "Brilliant. I can just see my son at 25 years old. He's on his way to his boss' office with his Betty Crocker Etch-A-Sketch, bucking for a raise. Halfway there, he trips on the shoelace that nobody taught him to tie. Now what?"

Back when I was a teen, and my mother was in her mid 30's, she went back to college. Because of her "advanced" age, her professors often employed her assistance marking papers. I remember one evening she was sitting at the desk in the living room, muttering under her breath with a stack of papers before her. I asked what was going on. She split the stack and handed me half, "Read these!" I did. Brutal. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar be dammed. And remember folks- this was before the internet, or textspeak! This was the late 1980's. College students, maybe 5 years older than I. Pathetic.

I could give you tens of examples in this vein. Unfortunately, they all lead to the same political rant- which obviously, I cannot get into here.

Yes- there are some wonderful kids out there! Smart, well-mannered, educated, social, able kids, that give a glimmer of hope to the future. Nowhere near as many as there should be. This is why I am more than happy to see younger folks on this forum- kids that are willing to learn, willing to get dirty, willing to turn a wrench. Good on you guys! (And the occasional girl!).

Oh- and one more point. Every now and then, I will see someone butcher a post, and another member will suggest he use "spell check". Spell check? THIS IS THE PROBLEM!!! Spell check is for when you tend to screw up "their" and "thier", or you just cannot seem to get through "governor" without goofing. Spell check is for a slip of the finger while typing, and you've just blown through an entire paragraph without noticing your error! Spell check is NOT a substitute for learning how to bloody spell!

Abso-friggin-lutely :thumbsup:

For the past 20 or so years, Australia has had a points system for proving your identity. Started by the banks, you now need 100 points of ID to get a bank account, A licence, government payments, etc.

Just after this system came in, I was having a discussion with a friend on the subject; this is what he said:

"The reason we need this system is because so many a$$holes go out & open bank accounts to support illegal activities including recieving multiply government payments. & who's faul is it? So many a$$holes parents"

Not to detract from the post, because I agree with every word of it, but I couldn't stop hearing The Battle Hymn of the Republic in my head as I was reading it.

"Glory, glory hallelujah" (that is now stuck in your head as well, you're welcome :devil2:)

Thanks, now you've got me doing it :toetap05:
 
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