Torque converter alternatives

[redsox985]

Is there any logical alternative to a standard comet 40 series torque converter for a 16 HP horizontal shaft motor. I do not want to use a cent. clutch. I am unaware of the shaft diameter but I'm assuming 1" with 1/4" keyway.

 

[redsox985]

I can't find the photo now but somewhere I saw an old (60's old) go kart with one of those snail looking car type of torque converters on it. Was that just a bad idea or is something along those lines possible?

 

[Kenny_McCormic]

You could use a mower trans, some were built with horizontal input.

 

[Stratogeezer]

I'm looking for almost exactly the same type of alternative for my 18 HP Briggs that I am putting onto my kart. Those Comet 40 series (or whoever is making them now) are not rated beyond like 8 HP or so.

I called my local small engine shop - and they said they had a solution - but it was between $300 and $400 to order. But - it sounded like it was a belt driven system - with the one clutch unit that goes on the 1" drive shaft - and a 2nd pulley the fits onto the 1" live axel. All belt - no chain.

I'm headed there tomorrow to talk to them more about it.

 

[turbojimmy]

I'm looking for almost exactly the same type of alternative for my 18 HP Briggs that I am putting onto my kart. Those Comet 40 series (or whoever is making them now) are not rated beyond like 8 HP or so.

I called my local small engine shop - and they said they had a solution - but it was between $300 and $400 to order. But - it sounded like it was a belt driven system - with the one clutch unit that goes on the 1" drive shaft - and a 2nd pulley the fits onto the 1" live axel. All belt - no chain.

I'm headed there tomorrow to talk to them more about it.

The Comet 40 series TC setup is rated up to 18 HP. And can still be had for around $300 with the belt. The old Comet 30-series, now being manufactured by GTC are rated from 2-7 or 8-13 HP depending on the version you get.

http://gokartsusa.com/gtc-comet-tav2-30-torq-a-verter.aspx

Jim

 

[Blazkowiez]

I do not believe the 8-13 statement they put on that clutch. That is a sales pitch to distribute 1" bore clutches. These clutches will not work well over 10hp. I can not fathom how their copies of Comet clutches which are in every way a copy can operate at a higher horsepower. This would be torn to pieces by your 16hp.

 

[redsox985]

Well I did not get the motor, it sold within hours it seemed like. Blaz I do agree that the 30 series is unable of handling more than 10hp. For anything larger i would have opted with the 40/44 magnum series TC.

 

[Silvergrizz]

The Comet 40 series TC setup is rated up to 18 HP. And can still be had for around $300 with the belt. The old Comet 30-series, now being manufactured by GTC are rated from 2-7 or 8-13 HP depending on the version you get.

http://gokartsusa.com/gtc-comet-tav2-30-torq-a-verter.aspx

Jim

Jim, I am currently searching for a 40/44 series clutch and driven for my current (1st) project. I have inquired at most of the supply houses listed here, but they have all advised "out of Stock, no longer in production" or words to that effect. I am planning on using a GX390 engine and would prefer the 44 for my off road kart. Do you know of a current supplier with stock or are you referring to picking one up off Ebay or Craiglist? Would prefer to purchase from a business. I have seen a 40 series driver on Ebay, but the company had no driven available. No sense picking up the driver if I cannot source a driven. Have acquired the steel, most of the parts I need except for engine, torque convertor and jackshaft, rack and pinion unit for steering.
Thanks
Bob

 

[redsox985]

QUIT STEALING MY THREADS!!!!!!!!

No, it's all good. Here's a link to a reliable source of kart parts. Pricey but available.

http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniClutchTorq40.html/mv_session_id=56GGjSKd

 

[redsox985]

So has anyone heard of any other types of TC's than the typical driver/driven pulley system?

 

[Silvergrizz]

QUIT STEALING MY THREADS!!!!!!!!

No, it's all good. Here's a link to a reliable source of kart parts. Pricey but available.

http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniClutchTorq40.html/mv_session_id=56GGjSKd

My apologies, I am new here and did not realize I was stealing. I already have a response from Bill at MFG, the item is no longer available. There are lots of places advertising the comet Torque Convertors that no longer have any stock remaining. Again, my apologies, I had no intention of Hijacking your thread, just requesting more information from a response you got here from Jim

Have a good day!
Bob

 

[redsox985]

No really I don't care honestly. I like to help out cause I'm always looking for info myself.

 

[redsox985]

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200322170_200322170

Northern Tool says it's temporarily backordered about a week but you may want to email them making sure they are getting more in stock soon.

http://www.ubuilditplans.com/NEWUBUILDIT.HTML

http://www.spinreel.com/40series.htm

Hope this helps

 

[turbojimmy]

or are you referring to picking one up off Ebay or Craiglist?

I got mine from eBay.

As to the original question about alternatives....I dunno. But here's a bump to the top.

 

[Silvergrizz]

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200322170_200322170

Northern Tool says it's temporarily backordered about a week but you may want to email them making sure they are getting more in stock soon.

http://www.ubuilditplans.com/NEWUBUILDIT.HTML

http://www.spinreel.com/40series.htm

Hope this helps

I have to wonder where northentool is getting stock from since comet went of business last year. Did e-mail though

Got a response from terry at Spinreel, nothing available in a 40 or 44 series. I don't know why these guys still advertise them

 

[redsox985]

Maybe its to get you on their site and buy other junk who knows.