What drill bits to use

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I was just wondering what drill bits everyone uses for what metal. The ones that i have been using are useless. I drill 2 holes and they are finished. I have bought several from our hardware stores, and they all seem to be useless.

Should I be getting some special drill bits or what? Are they supposed to get blunt so fast?
 

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as long as they are HSS metal bits, they should always last for more than 2 holes. are you using the correct rpm on your drill/drill press? too fast and they'll overheat, lost their temper, and become useless. too slow and they wont cut very well.
 

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So if i understand you correctly, the speed of the drill matters as well. I am not sure how to measure the rpm's my drill puts out. It does have a dial where you can increase and decease the speed though. I just don't know what the rpm's actually are.

I suppose i will just have to play around a bit. It isn't a very expensive drill, so it can't be going too fast...can it?
 

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What size is it? I have had a 4mm CK for over 2 years, use it for steel and never let me down untill it snapped last week. I use about 360 RPM for that size bit. RPM (revolutions per minute ie. how fast the chuck spins). If your drill is belt driven then its just a matter of moving up/down the belt on the pulleys. Also helps to use cutting fluid.
 

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So if i understand you correctly, the speed of the drill matters as well. I am not sure how to measure the rpm's my drill puts out. It does have a dial where you can increase and decease the speed though. I just don't know what the rpm's actually are.

I suppose i will just have to play around a bit. It isn't a very expensive drill, so it can't be going too fast...can it?

Rpm is VERY important. heres a chart (the sizes up top are drill bit size) http://members.home.nl/b.ollivier/html/drillspeedchart.htm
 

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All my bits are just plain HSS. When I f**k one up, it's my fault. Too fast, insufficient cutting lube, bad size progession... Most of it boils down to being lazy, and/or impatient.
 

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OK, so it sounds as if I am doing something wrong, cos I just got normal HSS bits. What type of lube does everyone use. If you are drilling a hole on your kart, how do you lube that then. It is easier on a drill press to lube than just drilling straight into your kart.

Toystory...what do you mean by bad size progression? Do you mean drilling a pilot hole before crilling a larger one?
 

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When drilling a larger hole, say 1/2", it's best for the bits if you drill a pilot, and then work your way up in a couple of steps, say 1/8 to 1/4" to 3/8" to 1/2" for example.

I think I'm using Masters cutting lube, but at this point, I'm not sure. I have a couple of squeeze bottles over the years that I just keep refilling. This can be done both on a drill press, and by hand when working directly on the kart.

One other point- let the drill do the work. Don't force it, apply a gentle pressure.
 

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With a hand drill, keep it at half speed or less. I believe on a drill press it should be under 200 rpm. Any cutting or tapping fluid should be sufficient.
 

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You can use any type of oil for drilling metal. I usually use transmission fluid. Heavier oils work well, too. Transmission fluid starts to smoke when it gets too hot, which is a good clue to slow down.

The softer the material is, the faster your drill should spin and the less pressure you should apply. If you push too hard and spin your drill too slowly, the hole will wander. This rule applies to soft metals and woods. Use plenty of lube on thick aluminum or the metal will gall and stick to the drill and cause it to drag and possibly break off, or at least it will cause your hole to get all bungled up. Also, you'll want to back the drill out and clear the chips frequently in thick aluminum for the same reason.

The harder the material is, the slower your RPM and the more pressure and more oil you should use. High RPM on hard materials will burn the bit. High pressure is completely safe if you are using enough oil.

Where I used to work years ago we used pneumatic drills, plenty of cutting oil, and I don't know what kind of bits. We used the same bits for aluminum, steel, titanium, whatever, and if you did it right they were good for everything. For titanium, we used super low RPM, so slow you could see the bit going around. If you used lots of oil and pushed hard enough to give you a cramp in your arm, you could watch ribbons of titanium come off the rivet.

I don't think you need the absolute best drill bits in the world to make it work. You can get by with "good" bits. Just don't buy the worst ones. A go kart enthusiast is usually working with nothing harder than mild steel anyway. Of course, if you do get the best drill bits, take care of them by lubing and not overspeeding in hard metal and they'll be a pleasure to use.
 
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