South Kart3377
Kart designer
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Small engine Nazies!!!
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TheBeal.
lol that sucks!
devino246
Official DIYGK Chem Nerd
It would be nice if your sentences were coherent...
r_chez_08
Should be in the shop...
Mate, I respect your views but I would give up on the epa crap unless you want a talking to by robert again...
Just go outside and scream a little. It may help
Just go outside and scream a little. It may help
the-cyborg
New member
Question:
Let me ask you, did they show up at your house and demand to inspect your industrial small engines?
Answer:
No I seriously doubt it.
Question:
Are they requiring any kind of state or federal annual EPA emission testing on any industrial small engine not for highway usage?
Answer:
No, However many states do require annual EPA emission testing on any vehicle registered for highway usage i.e. trucks, cars, motorcycles, and 18 wheeler rigs.
Farm equipment, lawn equipment, chain saws, weed eaters, snow blower, go karts, mini bikes, and any other such equipment are exempt from annual EPA emission testing an any state AFAIK. I've have never heard of anyone having to take a go kart or a lawn mower to get an annual EPA emissions test.
I was 100% correct when I stated MFG's must meet at least minimal federal EPA emission levels or they can not sell the engine or equipment in the United stated period.
When you buy said equipment you can modify it however you want, why? because at this point in time annual emission testing IS NOT REQUIRED on these type of engines after the end user buys them.
Yes our federal government is frivolous with their spending, but it would take billions of dollars and massive man power to enforce such a low.
Believe me or not if you choose, but the federal government could give a squirt of pizz , how or why you would modify a small industrial engine for non highway usage.
I read an article a while back that did a breakdown on the emission from a standard modern car engine versed a standard modern small engine and the math worked out to the standard small industrial engine put out 16 time the emissions per gallon of gas consumed than the car did. now ask yourself this, assuming those figures are remotely correct, don't you think if the federal government were concerned with small engine emissions, there would already be laws in place requiring YOU the end user to have said such engine emission tested every year, and some sort of of certification issued each year for said such engine, as they do in most states for vehicles for highway usage?
Now that I have stated the obvious with logic, I challenge anyone in this forum to prove otherwise.
Until any law goes in effect requiring emission testing on non highway usage engines, nobody from the EPA or any branch of the federal government is going to show up at your house, or place of business demanding to preform emission testing on your non highway use industrial small engines.
Let me ask you, did they show up at your house and demand to inspect your industrial small engines?
Answer:
No I seriously doubt it.
Question:
Are they requiring any kind of state or federal annual EPA emission testing on any industrial small engine not for highway usage?
Answer:
No, However many states do require annual EPA emission testing on any vehicle registered for highway usage i.e. trucks, cars, motorcycles, and 18 wheeler rigs.
Farm equipment, lawn equipment, chain saws, weed eaters, snow blower, go karts, mini bikes, and any other such equipment are exempt from annual EPA emission testing an any state AFAIK. I've have never heard of anyone having to take a go kart or a lawn mower to get an annual EPA emissions test.
I was 100% correct when I stated MFG's must meet at least minimal federal EPA emission levels or they can not sell the engine or equipment in the United stated period.
When you buy said equipment you can modify it however you want, why? because at this point in time annual emission testing IS NOT REQUIRED on these type of engines after the end user buys them.
Yes our federal government is frivolous with their spending, but it would take billions of dollars and massive man power to enforce such a low.
Believe me or not if you choose, but the federal government could give a squirt of pizz , how or why you would modify a small industrial engine for non highway usage.
I read an article a while back that did a breakdown on the emission from a standard modern car engine versed a standard modern small engine and the math worked out to the standard small industrial engine put out 16 time the emissions per gallon of gas consumed than the car did. now ask yourself this, assuming those figures are remotely correct, don't you think if the federal government were concerned with small engine emissions, there would already be laws in place requiring YOU the end user to have said such engine emission tested every year, and some sort of of certification issued each year for said such engine, as they do in most states for vehicles for highway usage?
Now that I have stated the obvious with logic, I challenge anyone in this forum to prove otherwise.
Until any law goes in effect requiring emission testing on non highway usage engines, nobody from the EPA or any branch of the federal government is going to show up at your house, or place of business demanding to preform emission testing on your non highway use industrial small engines.
oldbikerarlo
Old guy
Dude chill out!
Doc Sprocket
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I moved this thread to the "Off Topic" subcategory, as I don't believe it belongs in the "Building Plans And Advice" category. Someone else may delete. And I wouldn't blame him...
South Kart3377
Kart designer
Mate, I respect your views but I would give up on the epa crap unless you want a talking to by robert again...
Just go outside and scream a little. It may help
I like to pretend there is a box in a field on fire and make it smaller till its no longer there. i pm'd robert, so we are on better terms now .
South Kart3377
Kart designer
Thats ok, I am making this a bike vs. kart poll. It will be moved to the engines section.
r_chez_08
Should be in the shop...
Bike, cos you already have a kart.
South Kart3377
Kart designer
No, I have both and swich beetween on the same motor. Remember my mini frame for the can muffler, yea this one http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13330
r_chez_08
Should be in the shop...
Get a clone or engine about 5hp and put it in the bike and leave the 8hp in the kart
South Kart3377
Kart designer
Get a clone or engine about 5hp and put it in the bike and leave the 8hp in the kart
I will keep the 8 on the bike and put a super modded predater clone on the kart.
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