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matman55

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s. 316.003, s. 324.022, s. 324.021, s. 324.022

If 50 cc or less, these vehicles are not motorcycles by driver license law definition, S. 322.01(25), F.S., so a motorcycle endorsement is not required per S. 322.03(4), F.S.; however, to operate them on streets and roadways, you must be at least 16 years old and hold at least a regular operator (Class E) or “Motorcycle Only” driver license.


If a motor vehicle is 50 cc or less, 2 brake horsepower or less, and can not exceed more than 30 mph on level ground, no helmet is required for the operator. The operator must be at least 16 years old and hold at least a regular operator driver license (Class E) or “Motorcycle Only” license.) Passengers under 16 must wear a helmet.

Note: this applies to scooters over 50cc, such as the Vino 150 or Vespa ET-4.
According to S. 322.03 (4), F.S., “A person may not operate a motorcycle unless he or she holds a driver’s license that authorizes such operation, subject to the appropriate restrictions and endorsements.”
Persons under 16 may not operate a motorcycle or moped/scooter over 150cc or rent any motorcycle or moped.

A company is advertising on TV a gas engine kit that can be added to a bicycle. The engine is tied into the pedal system like a Moped and it has to be pedaled to start the engine. It is advertised that the bicycle will be propelled to 30MPH. How is the tax collector supposed to register this bicycle/gas engine assembly?
The definition of bicycle under s. 316.003(2), F.S., includes motorized bicycles. Bicycles are not registered or titled. Engine kits for bicycles are not new and there are a variety of kits available, however, they remain bicycles after the engine kit is installed. There are other requirements that must be met to be classified as a motorcycle/scooter/moped such as frame assembly and safety features. If a customer brings in paperwork for a bicycle, they cannot be legally issued a title or registration nor is it required. The agent should also direct the customer to law enforcement if there are any questions as to where the motorized bicycle can be used.
DHSMV response letter




Does anyone think i need to add anything to this? The statutes listed are for the officer to look up so i have some leverage in my argument.and the paragraphs are to show him that my mab is legal
 

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I been there and done that. Every cop has his own way is what I have learned. Basicaly if you look like an adult they do not mess with you. If you look like younger teen then always stop you. It's just how it is now days.

Good that you know the laws to your state though. Only one time I had to explain my case to the judge and had the fine dropped. Also a friend did the same thing. Cops do not understand Moped and scooters. Are cases were on Peddle type mopeds not scooters.
 

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it matters which state, for one.

Every state has different laws (as far as I have seen and read). The laws that are stated above will NOT apply to the rest of America. I know for a fact that in the state of Washington, motorised bikes (ones with kits, weedeaters etc) are illegal.

Like Bighead says, if you are a kid, you are definately going to get pulled over and written a ticket. You have gotta make sure that you know the law for your state so that you can argue your case with the judge
 

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im only 15 but some who try to guess my age say im 19.I have always had good luck with cops,i respect them and they respect me and every ones happy.


Heres a dumb question,i can ride a mab on private property without question?
 

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I think it's pretty much universal that you can ride/drive whatever you want on your own property, and on someone else's private property with the property owner's permission. This is assuming you're not causing any other problems (disturbing the peace, etc.).
 

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the owner said go ahead,he lives up in georgia and when i go back up im going to bring my mab and rip up some of tails he has.hes also got a down hill drive way thats like this

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steep,its crazy.and theres also a 5ft ditch on either.It takes really ba\\s to go down that hill


:cheers2: + :roflol:+:auto:= one of two options. :devil2::angelsad2:
 
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