electric go kart project help please

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i I'm new to this, I'm building a new toy and am deciding to go electric. I have a small 50cc ATV frame and I would like it to around 25 mph and have some decent torque. Enoyght torque to spin the tires a little bit. I need help on where to start and then I can go from there.
 

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Im no expert and others may chime in, but thats gonna take a lot of torque to spin those tires... which means you gearing will need to be way to low to hit 25mph.... keep in mind, even Gas ATVs have 4-5 speeds on them for that very reason...
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Ive never had one of those tiny 50cc quads...but I always assumed they were single speed trans?

that seems like a good base for a electric conversion. tho I do think it will take a little bit bigger motor than a small kart would.
 

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:welcome2: Robert..
breaking traction?

to make a guess what you'll need take your weight (yes.. how big's your butt ;))
and the weight of the vehicle when it's done (batteries are heavy)

have that?
perfect, convert to kilograms.
nice.. now multiply that by 6.867 ( short for 9.81 * 0.7)

Now you know the "sticking" force of your four wheels to the road.
(Newton)
example:
260 kg * 9.81 m/s² * 0.7 = 1785.42 Newton

to break traction the motor needs to provide MORE than that force,
and must be capable of applying that force instantly (the even tougher part)
otherwise you'll transform the power into forward momentum ;)

but let's assume you lock the front brakes (cheating.. I know)
then 1800 Newton should do the trick already

How big are your wheels? or precisely what's the distance between the road and the center of the driven axle?
(for a 18" wheel we can assume something around 22 cm, but measuring it will provide more accurate results)

1800N * 0.22 m = 396Nm of torque;
that's what you need to break traction in our example (260kg driver&vehicle unit, 18" wheels)

that's a lot.

with a 6:1 drive ratio your motor will still need to provide a torque of 66 Nm

(four to five times the torque a typical 212 predator provides)

if you don't want to spend a fortune for that thing...
(roughly a 9kW motor would be needed for a dry asphalt road)

you'd better find loose gravel or a wet road to spin tyres...
best: find a patch of ice next winter ;)

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Ive never had one of those tiny 50cc quads...but I always assumed they were single speed trans?

that seems like a good base for a electric conversion. tho I do think it will take a little bit bigger motor than a small kart would.


2-stroke centrifugal clutch and sprocket gearing...pretty tame
 
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