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kartkiller

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I wanna replace my worn Briggs with a HF clone engine and was wondering something. It looks like the pull string is on the opposite side than what my briggs is. If you notice, the clone pull would be on the right hand side of the Kart but would be pulled forward instead of back towards the rear of the kart. This thing has a live axle and a jack shaft. Would I have to swap all of that to the other side or what? My thinking is that with the pull towards the front, the crank would be goin opposite? What to do?

 

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pull direction is the same, meaning the engine turns the same way. the handles orientation can be changed. but if you look close, the handles point up if on the left. if while on the left, the handle pointed down, you would have a problem.
 

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I removed the governor from the motor and I'm worried about the 29 year old flywheel exploding into the back of my skull. Thats why I want to get a clone engine.
 

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which it wont unless you went and drilled your flywheel... you will trust something MADE IN CHINA were none of them comies give a darn about any american.. or just keep a american made engine that u think is old and crappy i bet you that clone would not last anywere near as long as this engine has and will continue to last

but if you continue to want to buy a clone and feed the comies and your are in pennsylvania i will buy that briggs off you.
 

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which it wont unless you went and drilled your flywheel... you will trust something MADE IN CHINA were none of them comies give a darn about any american.. or just keep a american made engine that u think is old and crappy i bet you that clone would not last anywere near as long as this engine has and will continue to last

but if you continue to want to buy a clone and feed the comies and your are in pennsylvania i will buy that briggs off you.

woa nelly, someone is on a real vendetta against china :roflol:
 

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Lol.. yea

Does the flatty have a cast iron bore? Does the flatty have dual bearing crank? Does the flatty have a low oil sensor? On board fuel shut off? On board kill switch?

All those things along with OHV and more power, less maintenance, longer life, less emissions, less fuel consumption.

Sounds just awful to me.. oh yea and they cost $99.. less than a Flatty EVER cost.
 

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Lol.. yea

Does the flatty have a cast iron bore?Yes Does the flatty have dual bearing crank? Does the flatty have a low oil sensor?yes On board fuel shut off?dont need one On board kill switch? yes

All those things along with OHV and more power, less maintenancewrong, longer lifewrong, less emissions,who gives a shit? less fuel consumption.wont notice it at all in a small engine.

Sounds just awful to me.. oh yea and they cost $99.. less than a Flatty EVER cost.you can pick up a flatty fully running for 20 bux and have it last 8 times longer then some chinese peice of shit

And yes KieranM cause there comunist who slowy suck away american jobs thus puting my country more in the Shiter
 

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Maybe if Americans didnt decide to demand $25/hr to install a floor mat on an assembly line we wouldnt have this issue.



Lol.. i have yet to see a low oil sensor on a Briggs 5hp or a kill switch. And 95% of Flattys do NOT have dual bearing cranks or cast iron bores. ALL clones do... and they have all of the other things mentioned before. There's a reason Briggs isn't even making these things anymore..
 

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they all have a kill switch how the hell else are u gona turn the **** thing off? magic, god?

the only reason briggs doesnt make these engines anymore is the *** eating EPA same anoying *******s that are trying to get me to convert my truck over to catalyst. aint gona happen.

obvliously you never opened a flatty cause most have a cast bore and not a aluminum and all engines would have bearings unless its powered by god. and some how frictionless.
 

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Obviously YOU have not ever studied kart racing or you would know that 95% of general consumer type engines like the kind we use on fun karts have aluminum bores. As Briggs likes to sugarcoat it "Kool Bore"... ooo that's slick. Aluminum is fine when operating at a constant rpm under normal oil change intervals for a set period of hours (5000hrs or whatever they deem the useful life of the engine). However in the original posters thread he states his flatty is smoking and burning oil. Well imagine that the aluminum has worn out of tolerances and has started to allow excessive ring gap/cylinder wear.


As for dual bearings. On the PTO/crank side you will find a roller bearing. On the flywheel side you will find a teflon coated bushing of (again) 95% of all consumer grade engines including the Briggs Flatty. Racing engines and commercial grade engines are subject to higher crankshaft loads and speeds, excessive heat that can deteriorate this plain bushing so they use another roller bearing on this end of the crank as well. You'll find it on every clone... not every Briggs.

Flattys have an antiquated ground/throttle kill switch. Clones have a nice remote kill switch that doesn't get gummed up with sludge and only work some of the time.
 

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what ever you say ill stick with my Briggs that have been running as long as my truck and you can have your little clones that im sure in 5 years will break due to chinese **** metal construction.
 
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