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This has never been talked about here so I’m going to bring it up now. We all know about sanding, sandblasting, wire wheeling and scraping to remove rust from our beloved karts. What I’m bringing up are alternative less labor intensive ways of removing rust from our beloved hulk’s steel bits. Now understand most of the methods I’m about to bring up will not remove paint, but it won’t harm it or chrome either. These are the methods I’ll be covering and the pro’s and con’s of each one. We can discuss the methods after I get them all pointed out please?
1. Citric acid bath
2. Molasses bath
3. Evaporust soak
4. Safest Rust Remover
5. Electro-Chemically

Citric acid and molasses. I put these 2 together because they work the same way. The citric acid in both break down the rust to dissolve it. It is a mild form of acid and will slowly eat into the parent steel also if mixed properly but only extremely slowly! That’s the con side of things. The pro side is it is one of the faster, cheaper least energy required types of rust removal. It works much better in hot weather and molasses stinks to high heaven as it ages from decomposition. It will also attract bugs and critters (mice and rats). Citric acid will not attract dinner guests or stink. Submersion therapy will work in about 10 or so hours for really rusty stuff. When you are done you can simply pour it on the grass to get rid of it as it’s non toxic and even safe to use in California I think? But who knows in Cali it may cause pregnancy or something! You do have to neutralize it with baking soda, both parts and solution.

Evaporust, oxacylic acid, and Safest Rust Remover.
I’m going to lump these together also. These are commercially available products that also destroy rust and neutralize it. I have never used any of these before but have seen the most impressive results from others. The big advantage with Safest is it does not destroy aluminum like the others do.

And last but not least Electro-Chemically!

This method uses a solution of Arm and Hammer washing powder, a cathode, and a dc power source. It is also one of the more costly ways of doing it but it does reverse some of the rust damage to steel. It is like electroplating in reverse. It’s also a bigger pain in the but to do and runs the highest risk of a hydrogen explosion or wrecking your steel.

So these are some of the ways you can derust your steel and maybe save that axle and wheels from a beating trying to get them off. Let’s keep this thread open and going with questions and answers on other methods you may have tried or know about!
 

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The reason I’m bringing all this up is because we seem to cut up a lot of good parts or destroy stuff getting things apart. And let’s face it some of that stuff is expensive and hard to find. But if we could say peel a tire off a rim. Soak the rim and axle in a solution for a few days and it all just slides apart. Then why not spread the joy?
When the Confederate submarine the CSS Huntley was found and the turret from the Monitor both were restored using the electro-chemical method known as electrolysis. It took years but considering how long they were in the ocean it really was a short period of time. Think about it folks.
 

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I was skeptical, about using... Evaporust,... but I got some and tried it, and wow, it really does work.
I used the liquid, kind that you soak your parts in..... I also used the thick pasty jell kind, that you brush on if your rusty item is to big
or difficult to soak. It really surprised me, they both worked great for me. I recommend it.
Like the label says you might have to do it more than once.

Also, easy water cleanup.......Never store/leave it outside below freezing temperatures. It will ruin it, found out the hard way.
After I read the label, which says don't do that.
 
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I was skeptical, about using... Evaporust,... but I got some and tried it, and wow, it really does work.
I used the liquid, kind that you soak your parts in..... I also used the thick pasty jell kind, that you brush on if your rusty item is to big
or difficult to soak. It really surprised me, they both worked great for me. I recommend it.
Like the label says you might have to do it more than once.

Also, easy water cleanup.......Never store/leave it outside below freezing temperatures. It will ruin it, found out the hard way.
After I read the label, which says don't do that.
How is it for getting hubs off of rusted axles? Is it safe for aluminum?
 

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I never used it around aluminum, but I saw a half hour advertisement show, and if I can remember it was save. Can't swear by it though......I wouldn't be afraid of it getting on aluminum.

I think there are many different
demonstrations on YouTube.

Also Harbor Freight has it a little cheaper than Amazon. Although Amazon has many more variants/types of Evaporust.
 
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I never used it around aluminum, but I saw a half hour advertisement show, and if I can remember it was save. Can't swear by it though......I wouldn't be afraid of it getting on aluminum.

I think there are many different
demonstrations on YouTube
 

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For rusty steel stock and/or parts l use a solution of muratic acid and water 50 - 85%. Concentration and time vary depending on the severaty of the problem. Its best used as a dip. Rinse well and dry right away or you’ll be able to watch surface rust appear. Use only on unplated material that will be painted. Work in a WELL ventilated place as the fumes are noxious. Adding Dawn soap to the solution helps remove grease and oil as well as reduce fumes. It is also a great way to remove zinc plating for welding. It will etch the surface, but l’ve found it‘s an ideal surface for paint.
 

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I used Rust O Leum rust remover gel and it worked pretty well on an easy part. I tried the washing soda and 12v with sacrificial piece of steel. It worked pretty well, but didn't get the wheel off the axle. I dont know what I did wrong but the jumper cables I used melted down. So definitely be careful with this process.
 

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Friends, let me tell you what you are looking for. There is only one product on the market that will not only remove rust, but will make you forget what rust even looks like: Saw-Glu.
After inventing Saw-Glu the color of brown doesn’t even exist around my house! Even my poop is tan.
 

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I think you guys should use...EvapoPoop...if your Saw-Glu isn't working.
I always use EvapoPoop when my toilet gets clogged.
 
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The problem with using electrolysis is you run several risks. Explosive hydrogen fumes, explosion and fire from power supply and hydrogen embrittlement to the steel. Plus it is like electroplating (chroming) it only works line of sight. Meaning it will not go around corners or into tubes or tight spaces unless they are in the line of sight.
 

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The problem with using electrolysis is you run several risks. Explosive hydrogen fumes, explosion and fire from power supply and hydrogen embrittlement to the steel. Plus it is like electroplating (chroming) it only works line of sight. Meaning it will not go around corners or into tubes or tight spaces unless they are in the line of sight.
That process just sounds too dangerous to deal with...... I guess if you know what you're doing it's okay.
I use evapor roast because it's extremely easy to use and water cleanup.
 
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