Kartorbust
Well-known member
Been wanting to ask somethings in the last couple weeks but haven't, mostly because I have a nasty tendency of changing my mind before I even start, which ends up ticking a lot of people off, especially if you haven't started making it, such as this case. Plus considering this will be on the back burner for a while, I thought why waste other's times asking if it may not even be built? But I might as well ask just in case I do end up pursuing this build.
I, like my dad enjoy hunting and ice fishing. While we were out hunting this year, he told me that he would want something like a side by side to help get around in the areas we hunt, or help carry his portable ice fish house out on a lake with all his stuff (auger, fishing tackle, 20lb propane bottle and heater, etc). Now while he could drive the truck out on the ice, long as it was 20" or more, sometimes that's just not feasible. What he had in mind was something along the lines of a John Deere Gator. Now being that those things are stupid expensive new and used for the most part, I figured I build him something similar, might not be as high quality and refined but it would work.
Now my thoughts for it,
Solid front axle that is short with either a ujoint or cv joint on a swing arm with a sprocket that I can use to make it all wheel drive. For making it AWD, I would use the basic concept of that 2 speed gearbox that a member built on here years ago, with some sort of rod and lever to lock it in place when more traction is needed and unlock it when it isn't.
The rear end is a bit interesting, I plan on making it a walking axle. Being as I want to make this a 6x6 for a bit more traction for pulling and going over downed trees in the woods and for the cool factor, the 4 tires will be paired on to a beam that will pivot in the middle. No springs on it at all. Each wheel will be on its own short live axle with a sprocket and brake, or at least 2 will be. In the middle where the walking axle pivots will be the jackshaft that goes to the transmission.
For the transmission I want to use a Peerless 700. I know I'm not going to get anywhere too fast, that's not the plan if the top speed ends up being 15mph, I'd be more than satisfied. The replacement 700s that I find have 2 output shafts. My thought is, run one chain to the front axle and one to the rears, all geared the same so there isn't any issues.
Now I know this thing will not be remotely light and may not be easy to push so, I'm planning on mounting a 2500lb ATV winch to the front just in case. The engine will be either a Predator 420 or something from Carroll Stream. Now this may seem stupid, but I find it to be a bit more necessary, it's going to have either a 3 wire generic alternator or a 1 wire, but not much more than 40 amps will be needed. I know a large battery could supplement for lights, but it may end up being used to power a battery ice auger.
I know the input of the Peerless 700 is on top as it was used mostly with vertical shaft engines, but I plan on doing a mule drive setup with a manual foot controlled clutch.
I had originally thought about using something like 44" live axles in the rear, the problem is, I want more independent suspension than what full length live axles would give, as well as needing the flexibility to make it wider or shorter as needed to meet criteria.
This is just me spit balling ideas about it and looking for some feed back if this sounds like a solid idea or not and how I could critique it.
I'll toss in a pic of a walking axle for those who don't know what one is, I honestly didn't know they were called this.
I, like my dad enjoy hunting and ice fishing. While we were out hunting this year, he told me that he would want something like a side by side to help get around in the areas we hunt, or help carry his portable ice fish house out on a lake with all his stuff (auger, fishing tackle, 20lb propane bottle and heater, etc). Now while he could drive the truck out on the ice, long as it was 20" or more, sometimes that's just not feasible. What he had in mind was something along the lines of a John Deere Gator. Now being that those things are stupid expensive new and used for the most part, I figured I build him something similar, might not be as high quality and refined but it would work.
Now my thoughts for it,
Solid front axle that is short with either a ujoint or cv joint on a swing arm with a sprocket that I can use to make it all wheel drive. For making it AWD, I would use the basic concept of that 2 speed gearbox that a member built on here years ago, with some sort of rod and lever to lock it in place when more traction is needed and unlock it when it isn't.
The rear end is a bit interesting, I plan on making it a walking axle. Being as I want to make this a 6x6 for a bit more traction for pulling and going over downed trees in the woods and for the cool factor, the 4 tires will be paired on to a beam that will pivot in the middle. No springs on it at all. Each wheel will be on its own short live axle with a sprocket and brake, or at least 2 will be. In the middle where the walking axle pivots will be the jackshaft that goes to the transmission.
For the transmission I want to use a Peerless 700. I know I'm not going to get anywhere too fast, that's not the plan if the top speed ends up being 15mph, I'd be more than satisfied. The replacement 700s that I find have 2 output shafts. My thought is, run one chain to the front axle and one to the rears, all geared the same so there isn't any issues.
Now I know this thing will not be remotely light and may not be easy to push so, I'm planning on mounting a 2500lb ATV winch to the front just in case. The engine will be either a Predator 420 or something from Carroll Stream. Now this may seem stupid, but I find it to be a bit more necessary, it's going to have either a 3 wire generic alternator or a 1 wire, but not much more than 40 amps will be needed. I know a large battery could supplement for lights, but it may end up being used to power a battery ice auger.
I know the input of the Peerless 700 is on top as it was used mostly with vertical shaft engines, but I plan on doing a mule drive setup with a manual foot controlled clutch.
I had originally thought about using something like 44" live axles in the rear, the problem is, I want more independent suspension than what full length live axles would give, as well as needing the flexibility to make it wider or shorter as needed to meet criteria.
This is just me spit balling ideas about it and looking for some feed back if this sounds like a solid idea or not and how I could critique it.
I'll toss in a pic of a walking axle for those who don't know what one is, I honestly didn't know they were called this.