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I am new to the karting scene and I have a vertical shaft briggs engine sitting in my garage. Has anyone used a peerless tranny with a go kart on here? I am wanting to go around 50mph with a go kart and I figure the only I could possibly do that with a small engine is a transmission with gears.
 

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If the transmission is from a mower, you're probably not going to get much speed out of it. Most transmissions gear down so that won't help you any.
 

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I am new to the karting scene and I have a vertical shaft briggs engine sitting in my garage. Has anyone used a peerless tranny with a go kart on here? I am wanting to go around 50mph with a go kart and I figure the only I could possibly do that with a small engine is a transmission with gears.

Your looking at a lot of money to make a multi geared cart. Mostly for the transmission. That will cost a lot. What is the engine rated at?
 

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Your best bet for something like this is a small motorcycle engine and transmission combo. That said, you can use your vertical shaft engine with a race-prepped Peerless 700 transmission, or similar arrangement. While we don't often see this combination on karts, lawn tractor racers do it regularly.
 

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The peerless 700 is what I was looking into. I know they are used in belt driven mowers and some riders. I know that in order to get the speed I would need I would probably have to put a big pulley on the engine and a little pulley on the peerless to help speed it up a little. I do landscaping and use a couple belt driven 36in mowers that use peerless trannys. I know if you take the grease out and put real gear oil in it they last a long time for kart use. I have seen some on ebay and craigslist for around 50-100 bucks. worth it if I can actually make it work right.
 

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Do keep in mind that the 700 is a transmission, not a transaxle. What this means to you is that you not only have the ability to adjust gearing with the engine and tranny input pulley sizes, you also have the ability to alter sprocket sizes between the output and axle. This gives you a lot of flexibility, and you can consider many options when selecting your gearing.

Another nice thing is that the 700 is available with several gearing options (from 2 speeds up to 5) and different ratios. Also, the internals are compatible with the common-as-mud 800 transaxle, so you can do what I have- throw all the gears from both trannys in a big pile, and choose your exact ratios. Then, you can step it up a notch- My 700 came from the factory as a 3 speed. Using 800 parts, I made it a 4-speed.

Now, some cautionary words: In a low-speed mower environment, the Peerless units seem tolerant to shifting-on-the-fly. This is not suggested in kart or race applications. None of them are of a synchromesh design, and abuse will chew up shift keys. It's best to keep this in mind when selecting your gearing so that you can still start off in high gear, without having to upshift. Apparently, down-shifting is even harder on them.

The other red-flag warning for you- Reverse... The 700 uses a #41 chain on sprockets for reverse, and clearances to the case are fairly close. IF the chain should fail, it WILL bind and blow the case apart. Most racers simply remove the chain as reverse isn't needed in racing, and indeed most sanctioning bodies have it written right into the rules. If you put on a brand new chain and treat it right, you will probably be okay, just keep it in mind.

If the transmission is from a mower, you're probably not going to get much speed out of it. Most transmissions gear down so that won't help you any.

Not to put too fine a point on things, but I have to clarify something here. As a general rule, ALL transmissions gear down, and that's because they have to- and indeed what you NEED. Think about your average kart, geared by chain and sprocket to maybe 6:1. The clutch, sprockets and chain constitute a transmission, and indeed gears down. The key factor in all of it, is selecting a transmission arrangement that will gear down to the right ratio.
 

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If you are interested in a peerless 700 let me know. I have this one
Thats 3 forward and reverse.
 

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