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Old 10-05-2009, 03:31 PM
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ok so this is my current go kart, small, fast, and cramped...
http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthr...4420#post64420

My longtime gokart dream was to have a bike powered shifter kart, but at 15 and no job, im pretty low on funds. so my idea is to take out the seat, put in a shifter kart seat and use the room i took away and put an engine mount and then do a live axle conversion , I would be using the same engine till I get the bike engine that robin may be giving me.

I also am thinking about putting on lawnmower tires because they are oh so awesome
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so the offroad is a little exaggerated... some dirt roads and a few flat trails really...
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Its a lot more work than you think, and it will end up costing you a fair bit just in parts. So far I'm about $150 into mine, and i have scrounged every bit possible, thats just paying for metal to extend the frame, my bearings, sprockets, and the engine. I got a crazy deal on the engine ($40 for the whole bike, which needed very little work). I got a free piece of axle for the jackshaft, a lot of free metal, and i had a live axle in my kart already so that expense was out of the picture. anyways, i don't want to discourage you, shifter karts are awesome, I'm just saying its not a quick slap in job, you need some basic tools, a welder, and some knowhow. Also, I highly doubt the engine will be free from robin, he's over in the UK and shipping something that heavy isn't cheap.

My only other word of advice is take your time, my first kart build was a shifter kart with a little 100cc bike engine, i whipped it out in just under a month and didn't design it well, it turned out underpowered (because of gearing), and the shifter linkage was complete crap.

Heres my build, its taken just over a month so far and I'm close to being done, but it still needs more work, and i will be doing a roll cage so i don't expect it to be 100% for at least another month. http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5055
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well the only real structural work i would need to do is the live axle conversion and putting some metal down for the engine to go to the side. and a seat cost like 30$ max on ebay. But if i don't know what i'm talking about please correct me
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also, for the engine what do oyu think about this bike? http://panamacity.craigslist.org/mcy/1406227944.html
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Do you have a welder? If your using a smaller bike engine, you could most likely get away with buying very little or no metal. You kart looks pretty wide so you could basically just toss it in where the passenger seat is. Live axle setup will still cost you some good money

Axle - $25
Bearings - at least $20
keystock, setscrews and other goodies - $10-$20
Tires - anywhere from $50 for a pair up into the hundreds.
Brakes - Anywhere from $40 to a few hundred for nice hydraulic disc brakes.

So theres almost $140 without engine or any other parts. A sprocket is gonna run you another $30, $30 for the seat, then other random parts and metal for linkages and such which will nickle and dime you.

Anyways, i dont want to discourage you, shifter karts are really fun, and even if you have to build slow because of money, its worth it.

that engine is way overpriced, and doesn't even have a carb, definitely not worth it.
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I emaile dhim about just getting the engine for 100$ so well see
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and I knew the live axle would be the money maker for this project though but could you make a shifter kart with only 1 wheel drive?
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I wouldnt even pay $100 for the engine, he didnt even say if it turned over, and a carb is another 30-50.
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alright, keep your eye out for me
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I found this http://pensacola.craigslist.org/mcy/1396766123.html
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Ill tell you this anything cool AINT CHEEP!!!!!! Oh yeah kaptian the cheepest tire combos i can find would cost 185 for turf savers for gods sake on kart wheels lol.
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jeezum, 185? thats so much...luckily my kart tires are 15x sumin, whatever the size of your average riding mower front tires are, so i got plenty of replacements.

Kaz, give that guy a call,and ask some questions.

What are they out of?
do they have carbs and electrical?
are they 2 or 4 stroke?
If its a 2 stroke do they have exhausts?

figure that out and come back, let me know. 100cc as i figured out, isnt the best for anything but street. Offroad you end up having to gear it low and shift a lot with such a small engine.
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well I cant honestly call it offroad, just a dirt road i live on and a paved one close to it. also we have my riding area, which is a mile long road they built for house but never built any houses lol.
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why can tI just use the tires I have on my kart now?
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the engines are sold... gotta find something else...
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i might just go with this in the long haul if I cant find anything by my b-day http://www.affordablegokarts.com/mm5...tegory_Code=E2
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ur better off (much cheeper) to get a 6.5 clone for 80 bucks and then get a strait pipe airfilter and adapter and re jet the carb thats all thats on that thing.
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ur better off (much cheeper) to get a 6.5 clone for 80 bucks and then get a strait pipe airfilter and adapter and re jet the carb thats all thats on that thing.
where would I get thise "clone" from?
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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66015
you can get a 20% off coupon that brings the price down a good bit.
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