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Hi ya'll

I am new here and new to the hobby

I am trying to come up with an idea for a T-Bucket style Go Kart. I want the engine in the front and it to be RWD. I want it manly just to drive around with (pavement, NO off-road) and to look and function like a real t-bucket.

I am starting this from NOTHING but a 20hp Kohler engine with a vertical output shaft. SO any input and information and opinions are welcome.

The engine was FREE so that is why I want to use it. I would hate to have to buy a new/used one. And I think the vertical shaft will give me a challenge.

Info about...
Building material
Frame design
Drive train
Wheels and tires
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...and the list goes on.... would be very helpful.

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A vertical shaft is going to be hard to use.
May want to rethink the engine first.
Other than that shouldn't be hard.
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What would be a good/cheap engine?
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Depends on what cheap is?
I would use a harbor freight 6.5 for $119.00 new
And gear it to what speed you want.
They are good strong engines with a warranty.
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Hi ya'll

I am new here and new to the hobby

I am trying to come up with an idea for a T-Bucket style Go Kart. I want the engine in the front and it to be RWD. I want it manly just to drive around with (pavement, NO off-road) and to look and function like a real t-bucket.
You may have a problem doing the engine in the front and it being RWD.

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A vertical shaft is going to be hard to use.
May want to rethink the engine first.
Other than that shouldn't be hard.
using a vertical shaft will be hard to convert. but not impossible.
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I found this one! What do ya'll think of this one?

http://gokartsusa.com/Honda-Gokart-E...nibike-65.aspx
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I found this one! What do ya'll think of this one?

http://gokartsusa.com/Honda-Gokart-E...nibike-65.aspx
honda is always reliable and mods are abundant.
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You may have a problem doing the engine in the front and it being RWD.



using a vertical shaft will be hard to convert. but not impossible.
Anything is possible! LOL
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Anything is possible! LOL
well yes, if ya have patience, money, and the know how!
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I found this one! What do ya'll think of this one?

http://gokartsusa.com/Honda-Gokart-E...nibike-65.aspx
Someone please correct me if im wrong , but isnt that basically a harbor freight engine ? from what I understand these clones are not all that different from each other . This one just seems to be more expensive .
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I agree to much money for the same thing as a harbor freight engine.
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Or get this one

http://www.harborfreight.com/horizon...7hp-69730.html

With this upgrade kit

http://gokartsusa.com/Builders-Parts...160-GX200.aspx
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Iceman- Very, VERY cool idea. And one that I have been playing with on paper for quite some time.

I batted around the idea of using a vertical shaft engine. Easy-peasy, really. Think green. As in grass. As in lawnmower...

Vertical front engine, using a belt and pulley system running rearward to a Tecumseh-Peerless 700 (or equivalent) lawn tractor transmission that has been race-prepped. The 700 is a transmission (not a transaxle) that has a vertical shaft input, and a horizontal shaft output. The output would then be chain and sprocket to a live rear axle. Done like dinner.

You could use a centrifugal clutch if you like, or just a manual belt tensioner for clutching. The benefits include having a multi-speed transmission with reverse. Very carlike in operation...
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Sorry guys but, I'm with TS on this one: thousands of lawnmowers work with this setup so, I can't see why not.

Good luck with it Iceman; I look forward to seeing this come to life
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thousands of lawnmowers work with this setup
Hundreds of thousands. And LOTS of racers, too- as long as the components used are up to the task and properly prepared.
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I'm with TS and Fab as well; all the parts you need to put that 20 HORSE POWER ENGINE to good use is reasonably readily available. And lets not forget, if you are looking to go the T- bucket route, you're doing it for a little bit of style. Now, which looks better on the style front; an import 7 hp single, or a US built 20 hp twin?

Just my two cents.......

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i agree. not that you need more validation. front engine rear dive with a manual shifter and belt tensioner clutch? about as t bucket as it gets.
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Iceman- Very, VERY cool idea. And one that I have been playing with on paper for quite some time.

I batted around the idea of using a vertical shaft engine. Easy-peasy, really. Think green. As in grass. As in lawnmower...

Vertical front engine, using a belt and pulley system running rearward to a Tecumseh-Peerless 700 (or equivalent) lawn tractor transmission that has been race-prepped. The 700 is a transmission (not a transaxle) that has a vertical shaft input, and a horizontal shaft output. The output would then be chain and sprocket to a live rear axle. Done like dinner.

You could use a centrifugal clutch if you like, or just a manual belt tensioner for clutching. The benefits include having a multi-speed transmission with reverse. Very carlike in operation...
How would I make that faster? 25-30mph
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What size live axle should i get? I don't know how they size axles and do u need bearings to hold it?
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1", and yes. Give us some time, and we can examine gearing. With that set-up, there's a bit more to it.
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