Zimmerman Shooting

[bighead]

Read the police report. Significant items not in MSM coverage. Zimmerman was bleeding from nose and back of his head and was wet (officer observed it appeared it might have been from being on the ground in wet grass). He told officers he yelled for help but no one came. This matches the info that recording captured someone yelling for help and when recording was played for father of the shot teen he told police it was not his sons voice. Do the folks who want to lynch Zimmerman think he punched himself in the nose, cut his own head in the back and then rolled in the grass after first shooting the teen for no reason and yelling for help (remember that witnesses say those cries for help came before the shot)
So their theory must be that Zimmer chased the teen and while chasing him started yelling for help, shot Martin and then hurt himself and rolled in the grass. Make sense to anyone?

Here is the police report that th media fails to report on.

http://​cnninsession.files.wordpress...olicreport.pdf

The media makes me sick on how the edited the 911 call as well. They made this guy look guilty as hell by editing the call. Listen to the real call and all the media edited calls. Funny how editing words out make a person a racist pig. Zimmerman was attacked by this kid. Love how the only photos you see if Martin are when he was 11 as well. People say the 911 lady told him "we do not need you to do that" So what!!! he was atacked after that call. So if you call 911 as say a person is in your backyard. They tell you we do not need you to go outside. And you do anyway and are atacked can you defend yourself? There was no derect order to not go look where Martin was hiding. They said "we do not need you to do that" There is no law saying you cannot watch and follow a person walking thru your hood. More so if your the watch man. Zimmerman called 911 two times. What did Martin do? he layed in wait to ambush Zimmerman.

I feel this is a race mob rules charge. What the original DA just ignored murder evendence? Only one charge was filed? Why? This is just a charge to make the public happy and by time for the mob rules out cry. Why murder 2? Murder 2 is the highest charge they can give a man without a grand jury? Now why do you think the SPECIAL DA did not want a grand jury to hear the case? It would be tossed out is why. This is a witch hunt and makes me sick. No grand jury? Sad sad politcal BS is all this is.

People really think Zimmerman was out hunting black men and shot the kid in cold blood for no reason? C,mon all you got to do is think about it some and not take to heart the left wing media reports.

[Jcotz]

I don't want to start any arguments, but an impassioned response on his side of the argument is of equivalent value of an impassioned response on the kid's side. The facts are not clear in the case yet, and it would be better to know the definitive facts of the case before being outraged for either argument.

[bighead]

Originally Posted by Jcotz

I don't want to start any arguments, but an impassioned response on his side of the argument is of equivalent value of an impassioned response on the kid's side. The facts are not clear in the case yet, and it would be better to know the definitive facts of the case before being outraged for either argument.

Thats well said friend. But I can watch one station and be told he is cold bloodded killer. The watch another station and he is a saint. I put the facts I heard and make my decisions.

I am never the type to sit back an wait. But your right we only know so much.

I can see the facts how the media clearly screwed zimmeman though. The 911 calls were selective edited just to make him look like a racist pig. Not edits to shorten the call. But taking out single words? C,mon thats BS. Right after Al and Jesse did there thing as well. Why would the media do crap like this. And why would people come back to that network knowing they do that crap? HAs anyone here listen to both the edited and the real 911 calls? It will make you sick to hear what they did to this man.

forget what the news is telling you. Watch both right and left wing reports and put the facts as one.

[rcarteraz07]

Originally Posted by Jcotz

I don't want to start any arguments, but an impassioned response on his side of the argument is of equivalent value of an impassioned response on the kid's side. The facts are not clear in the case yet, and it would be better to know the definitive facts of the case before being outraged for either argument.

Sadly, it's too late fore that. Zimmerman was made out to be a murderer from the very beginning. His side of the story and the

definitive facts

were ignored since the beginning. It was immediately turned into a hate crime. Have you been following the story? I'm not trying to start anything but really what you are saying is quite ignorant.

[rcarteraz07]

Originally Posted by bighead

Thats well said friend. But I can watch one station and be told he is cold bloodded killer. The watch another station and he is a saint. I put the facts I heard and make my decisions.

I am never the type to sit back an wait. But your right we only know so much.

I can se the facts how the media clearly screwed zimmeman though. The 911 calls were selective edited just to make him look like a racist pig. Not edits to shorten the call. But taking out single words? C,mon thats BS. Right after Al and Jesse did there thing as well.

Forget whatthe news is telling you. Watch both right and left wing reports and put the facts as one.

Well said... Couldn't have put it better!!

[bighead]

What do you think would happend if this new DA said no charges were going to be filed again? Riots would happen all over for the left wing media did there job well. So just charge with murder 2 with no grand jury and let the trial jury decide. Total BS..... Only one charge as well. When is the last time you saw a one charge only murder case? They already know whats going to happen is why. They just need to make the mob rules happy for now for all those people were sucked in by the edited 911 calls and left wing reports.

Black Panthers and other black groups can put put $10.000 public bounty out of Zimmernams head and not face charges? What's up with that? What would happen if the KKK leaders put out death bounty for black men in public. If you are black leader you can post 10 grand for a persons head forcing the charged into hiding or staying in jail.

This whole case is a political nightmare no matter how you look at it.

[rcarteraz07]

Originally Posted by bighead

What do you think would happend if this new DA said no charges were going to be filed again? Riots would happen all over for the left wing media did there job well. So just charge with murder 2 with no grand jury and let the trial jury decide. Total BS..... Only one charge as well. When is the last time you saw a one charge only murder case? They already know whats going to happen is why. They just need to make the mob rules happy for now for all those people were sucked in by the edited 911 calls and left wing reports.

Black Panthers and other black groups can put put $10.000 public bounty out of Zimmernams head and not face charges? What's up with that? What would happen if the KKK leaders put out death bounty for black men in public. If you are black leader you can post 10 grand for a persons head forcing the charged into hiding or staying in jail.

This whole case is a political nightmare no matter how you look at it.

You never see a one charge murder case... The fact that he "profiled" Martin is hearsay anyways! They have no witness that can show beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman was profiling... If any charge should be consider I would say involuntary manslaughter but looking at the "Stand your ground law" and based off the information provider I feel that Zimmerman is innocent. This whole situation is just not right.

[souperman000]

My cousin posted a picture like this one on facebook, hers was better but this is teh best I could find on Google....

Personally, I like this picture. Kinda opens your eyes? I feel sorry for trayvan's family, but I think this kid brought it upon himself..I havent been following the story to totally in depth so I cant get into a giant argument, but I agree with Bighead in that the news definitly edits and changes things.They make everything so dramatic its not even funny.

Enjoy:

[bighead]

Yep that was another media bias BS. Post pics of Martin from 5 years ago and skip over all the gang banger pics like this. From 11 to 17 you change a lot.

About 3 friends at work said if a person was following them they would stop and beat the person ***. I know it's just talk but this is how people think now days.

This kid was kicked out of school for drugs. And Martins fingerprints are being looked at to see if they match the burgs that were done in area. Also Zimmerman was a mentor to two black kids. Media never reported any of this. I am hearing that a judge might/could toss the case out before it even starts. It's amazing how the media can get a mob going posting one sided bias news leaving out MAGOR facts. This is what make me so mad. Not what really happend that night. But just how this whole thing went down. Makes me sick....

Every case the original DA ever worked on should be looked at now. What the legal team was not good enough to make a correct call from the case facts? Then Jesse and Al talk about it and everything was and is corrupt? Give me a freaking break will ya?

[bighead]

This is what the media shows you.

[souperman000]

yeah..thats the one my cousin showed me.

[bighead]

Like this?

[devino246]

I can't really take a side on this. Travon attacked Zimmerman, but Zimmerman was following Travon.

What ever happens, I hope that Zimmerman gets what he deserves; be it jail or acquittal.

[bighead]

Originally Posted by devino246

I can't really take a side on this. Travon attacked Zimmerman, but Zimmerman was following Travon.

What ever happens, I hope that Zimmerman gets what he deserves; be it jail or acquittal.

Well said. But if a person is following you does that give you a right to attack?

No charges were filed until Jesse and Al brought it back up? The original DA teamed cleared him with facts. Jesse and Al bring it up and next thing you know a liberal special DA is appointed and guess what? Lets just skip the grand jury as well while were at it.

If a person is watching,staring and following you that does not give you a right to lay hands on them. If a person lays hands on you you have the right to kill them with lethal force. If the person is the hood watch guy he has a reason to follow anyone he likes.

what I see it heading to is who attacked who? What happend before that does not matter for no laws were broken by anyone up until that point.

The media will say he was told NOT TO FOLLOW HIM. The taped call say's "we do not need you to do that" After he told the lady he lost site of him and was going to go look and see where he went. We do not need you to do that is not a order not to follow anyone. Zimmer drove up to where he last saw Martin and got out of his car. When he went to the bushes Martin jumped out. Witness said Martin yelled you got a problem? Zimmer Said No. Martin then said you do now and a fight was heard. 911 was called and Zimmer was heard yelling for help. Both men had fight marks and grass stains on them. At some time Zimmer killed him with his gun defending himself.

Martin laid in wait to fight Zimmer. He could have called 911 like zimmerman did. He wanted to fight and kick the person *** that was following him.

People think Zimmerman punched himself in the nose, cut his own head in the back and then rolled in the grass after first shooting the teen for no reason and yelling for help (remember that witnesses say those cries for help came before the shot)
So their theory must be that Zimmer chased the teen and while chasing him started yelling for help, shot Martin and then hurt himself and rolled in the grass. Make sense to anyone?

[devino246]

Really depends on the situation, words exchanged, attitude of follower, etc.

[the road]

From your friendly neighbourhood DIYGK mod staff: Please be advised that we absolutely will not tolerate posts like this. -TS

[Rustydog2010]

Originally Posted by the road

guess i'm done here

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You didn't have to be 'done here'. There are plenty of other words in the english language. People can actually have mature conversations. You just sound like a 12yo keyboard warrior... Nice one!

[souperman000]

guess i'm done here

'cause this is totally relevent to the conversatin right? jeez I dislike people who say these things...

[toystory_4wd]

Dealt with. In the future, folks- when somebody posts something completely inappropriate like that, please do not quote it- Takes more effort to clean up. Thank you!

[souperman000]

In the future, folks- when somebody posts something completely inappropriate like that, please do not quote it- Takes more effort to clean up. Thank you!

yessir mr. Toystory sir