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Old 12-19-2017, 03:39 PM
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Default Napa motor oil for baja warrior?

Hey I was wondering if I could use napa performance 10w30 motor oil for my baja warrior minibike, any help would be appreciated
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Regular Dino oil is as good as it comes for these engines...
I'm assuming a clone type installed??
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Some oils work better than others depending on temp. 10w30 might be a bit too much (there's an oil weight sticky) weight wise but will work fine. 5w30 is a bit nicer for all temps usually. Just change it as often as the manual suggests.

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I used to use 10w40 in my Baja, did so for years, until I went to the store to get some and they were out. The I went to 10w30, and it works fine.

Where are you from? Here in Ga it can get an easy 95*F (or higher!) in the summertime, which is why I used the 10w40.
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Regular Dino oil is as good as it comes for these engines...
I'm assuming a clone type installed??
Ya itís a Honda clone I think and good to know

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I used to use 10w40 in my Baja, did so for years, until I went to the store to get some and they were out. The I went to 10w30, and it works fine.

Where are you from? Here in Ga it can get an easy 95*F (or higher!) in the summertime, which is why I used the 10w40.
I live in Canada bc, donít get too hot really
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What about Dollar Store Oil?

Who has an opinion on 10W-30 that costs 1 dollar for 16oz.
My normal $2.50 oil change cost has been breaking the bank. LOL

What is it good for?
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Hopefully Dollar Store oil is what is stated on the label.

Back in the 80's I had a rusty old 70's Chevy van. She was an alcohol, ganja, who know what drenched party machine. Also she was an oil leaker/ burner. Oil pressure gauge didn't work, or didn't have a measurable oil pressure. I knew it was time to add oil when the lifters started clattering.

One day I stopped at a scary looking stop and rob. I needed oil bad. I bought a couple quarts, don't remember exactly, but it was a good price. It was black, I'll call it recycled. It kept me going, although it was probably barely suitable to keep down dust on a old backroad.
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The Dollar store stuff says...

"Meets American Petroleum Institute's (API) higheset automotive standards for high temperature protection (API SN), ILSAC, GF-5, GF-4, GF-3.

Exceeds car manufacturer's requirements API Service SN, SM, SL, SJ - SAE 10W-40"

I don't know what any of that means.

This stuff looked clean and Honey colored.
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This is interesting, long but interesting.

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/201...-test-ranking/
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This is interesting, long but interesting.

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/201...-test-ranking/
You should have told me there was a list. I didn't make it that far down the first time I looked.

I don't feel good about paying $10/qt for Royal Purple. This Bob is Not the Oil Guy.

The Wear Protection reference categories are:

• Over 105,000 psi = INCREDIBLE wear protection
• 90,000 to 105,000 psi = OUTSTANDING wear protection
• 75,000 to 90,000 psi = GOOD wear protection
• 60,000 to 75,000 psi = MODEST wear protection
• Below 60,000 psi = UNDESIRABLE wear protection

The HIGHER the psi value, the BETTER the Wear Protection.
Test result differences between oils of less than 10% are not significant, and oils within that range can be considered approximately equivalent.


Some ones I picked out..

83. 5W30 O’Reilly (house brand), API SN conventional = 91,433 psi

89. 5W20 Royal Purple API SN synthetic = 90,434 psi

2. 0W20 Amsoil Signature Series, synthetic = 134,840 psi

57. 10W30 Amsoil Dominator Racing Oil synthetic = 97,118 psi

How is your oil's wear protection rating?

Outstanding! Thank you for asking.
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Haha, sorry about not mentioning the list. If it's any consolation I am riddled with guilt. I won't be ok again till my morning Percocet kicks in.
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I figured that blog would consume you for hours, Bob. Unfortunately the author writes mostly about defending his tests from criticism.

This is what I buy, mostly because of it's price and my own cheapness:

84. 5W30 Castrol GTX High Mileage, API SN, synthetic blend = 91,404 psi
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Just picked up some O'Reillys 5W-30.
$4.72 / qt after tax.

Unfortunately for you EZ^2, My oil is far superior.
0.03% Better. Don't care what the author says about significance. 0.03% is obviously extremely significant.

I should probably go back and read all the stuff before the list.
I have no idea what the ranking even is. LOL
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so what is this that i hear about regular motor oil frothing because its designed for pressure lubed systems, and what not?

What is this other stuff i hear about "race" oil being crappy air compressor oil?

Higher weight oil for better compression at high temps and rpm?

I dunno, but i do know that you just put oil in your engine and it runs and that's about it.

I also know that if you get crazy cam/heavy springs, you could put REGULAR non-detergent oil in the engine, and add that Zinc/Phosphorous stuff to it to you dont flatten your cam and lifters. Just sayin. But then i went and bought that synthetic purple stuff with ZDDP in it, and then it has me wondering about this whole frothy thing and maybe i should get the other stuff that ARC sells, but then i guess they arent trying to sell it hard because look at the description. http://www.arcracing.com/oil-lubrication/ Now im running out of oil, down to my last quart or two. Then nyou got mr NR racing guy recommending certain weights and whatnot for his cams. http://www.nrracing.com/category-s/2601.htm

I just feel like i dont know much about these oils.
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so what is this that i hear about regular motor oil frothing because its designed for pressure lubed systems, and what not?

What is this other stuff i hear about "race" oil being crappy air compressor oil?

Higher weight oil for better compression at high temps and rpm?

I dunno, but i do know that you just put oil in your engine and it runs and that's about it.

I also know that if you get crazy cam/heavy springs, you could put REGULAR non-detergent oil in the engine, and add that Zinc/Phosphorous stuff to it to you dont flatten your cam and lifters. Just sayin. But then i went and bought that synthetic purple stuff with ZDDP in it, and then it has me wondering about this whole frothy thing and maybe i should get the other stuff that ARC sells, but then i guess they arent trying to sell it hard because look at the description. http://www.arcracing.com/oil-lubrication/ Now im running out of oil, down to my last quart or two. Then nyou got mr NR racing guy recommending certain weights and whatnot for his cams. http://www.nrracing.com/category-s/2601.htm

I just feel like i dont know much about these oils.
Shame oil you!
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I believe that people do modifications in the sump to prevent the oil from foaming up as much.

People have said that they fab up a piece of angle iron (aluminum) and bolt it where the low oil sensor used to be. It helps brace the block and provides a partition for some oil to hide behind or something.

"make a plate that braces the low oil shut off inside the case ( even better if its a piece of angled aluminum that closes off the area and leaves a void where oil is not violently whipped around, this is not a windage tray its just a quiet place in the block where oil is not whipped into foam )."

Then I saw this windage tray thing on Stout Racing yesterday, which I'm not sure what it does.
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http://garage.grumpysperformance.com...ge-tray-do.64/

I guess if you want to extract every ounce of power. Helps keep dollar store oil from getting beat up.

Polished counterweights, knife edged counterweights, I wonder how much they do in a little engine. Baffles, trap doors?

Next up would be dry sumps, a bit difficult on most small engines. Until they get oil pumps, haha.
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