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Old 07-14-2019, 01:02 PM
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Default My poor manco dingo project

I'll post up the pictures I currently have, another member opened my eyes and I'm going to fix this one up, I'm sure I'll have a few questions along the way, my first being, this frame was stretched by the p.o. and I'm fairly tall as well, with the amount he added I tiptoe the pedals at full depression. Should I try to take the stretch job out and do my best to get it back to original configuration, or do I fix the stretch to fit me? He has the steering, and pedals almost to the point of non-use, and upside down along with backwards, so I'm going to have to cut the nose off to straighten it, I hope the pictures express what I'm referring to.20190714_104238.jpg

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Old 07-14-2019, 04:24 PM
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20190714_142447.jpgGot it all stripped down and a better picture of the front end.
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:49 PM
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Awesome. Good choice. If the welds on the extension are solid and if it’s square you are probably better off leaving it. For the pedals you could build a box out of angle iron and weld to front of pedal. This would get you off your tip toes and be an easy solution. Throw on some grip tape on the pedal and you are set.
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:33 PM
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I'd say the welds are sketchy at best, I'm no professional but I imagine I could at least keep them under an inch thick weld that only covers half a cut. I'm not sure any of it is even remotely square, I'm guessing he got a new welder, and really wanted to use it bad, and had the latest in eyeball measuring devices. I'll keep my fingers crossed that I can get it closer when I fix the stretched areas, if it were a better job I'd probably leave it alone, but I'm not sure it could handle even a dip in the street above 20mph.
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Debating if mine's bettef or worse. Had to bend one of the arms that holds the spindles back. Last person hit something then welded it. So it was an inch back and down. Still rusty, been busy with other projects. As for yours I would cut off all the extra stuff then get rid of the extention or atleast do it right and use smaller pieces inside as well as the same od stuff
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:30 AM
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Debating if mine's bettef or worse. Had to bend one of the arms that holds the spindles back. Last person hit something then welded it. So it was an inch back and down. Still rusty, been busy with other projects. As for yours I would cut off all the extra stuff then get rid of the extention or atleast do it right and use smaller pieces inside as well as the same od stuff
I think I'm going to take a little our of the stretch, after getting the nose up level with the frame I think if I cut hit old junk out, and weld it correctly, I should be able to get full range on the pedals, putting the steering linkage back into the valley will help too.

Yours is in better shape, and I envy you! Last guy that had mine just slapped it together, rode it hard till he broke the exhaust off, collected water and siezed. I got the original 13hp honda to turn over, but she won't fire. I'll probably rob the 9hp honda off the shaller for a while once I get all the body work done. I'm just not sure what to do with the 2:1 reduction wet clutch when I do.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:41 AM
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He added an extra bar, moved the steering column forward almost a foot, and when he put the nose on pointing down, welded the front axle supports roughly half inch too high and crooked. I may have to get a little bit custom with mine, but at least I'm trying to get her almost 100%. I got the nose pretty straight, I'll probably do some welding and grinding tomrrow, maybe at least have the front end sorted out.
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:49 AM
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Debating if mine's bettef or worse. Had to bend one of the arms that holds the spindles back. Last person hit something then welded it. So it was an inch back and down. Still rusty, been busy with other projects. As for yours I would cut off all the extra stuff then get rid of the extention or atleast do it right and use smaller pieces inside as well as the same od stuff
Did you remove the floor pan or did you get it that way?
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Old 07-20-2019, 04:49 PM
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Haven't started any welding yet, but have removed the floor pan, that revealed the couple welds he did on the main frame, as well as the stretch job are not complete welds, and his extra tubing was welded in very uneven. I've been grinding down all of the bad welds, and just about have the frame cleaned up and prepped for proper fab work. I think he shortened the height of the backrest of the seat as well, and the steering hoop is crooked as well. I'm starting to wish I would have found one that hadn't been cut up in the first place, but I'll get it I'm sure.
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Old 07-20-2019, 05:27 PM
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Took it off, air hammer through the floorpan around the welds then ground them off. Have material to put on it that is rust free and also hole free.
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:25 AM
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I like how you wasted no time between making the decision and diving right in. I’m sure it’ll be great when finished!
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I like how you wasted no time between making the decision and diving right in. Iím sure itíll be great when finished!
I do that a lot, sometimes it works out well, other times not so much, there is an engine involved, so there is hope.

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Should I be entering this into the build-off?
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:00 PM
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Good job. Coming along!
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Moving quick! Makes me want to work on mine
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Well get on it! Lol. I was actually going to ask you what pitch the steering hoop is on yours if that's all factory, I'm going to have to replace the steering column so I'd rather make it longer instead of moving the hoop forward again. If you are able to help out with that I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Thank you! Still trying to decide if I'm going to sleep, or finish the frame instead tonight.
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:04 AM
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My hoop has had acouple inches of pipe added to the middle of it, not even eithor, so it's kinda high up compaired to yard kart standards and is also alittle crooked
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:02 AM
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I think I like the flow, front end is welded, going to grind and touch up the rough welds, steering pitch looks comfortable to me and seems like it will operate properly once it's all welded up, I really didn't like the steering column being a full 12" forward of factory location. I swear I have found more cut corners on this kart than I thought I would.
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Lol. I hear ya. I do most of my kart work at night as well.
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I'm told to come inside at 10/10:30 each night otherwise I'd be in the barn for another 3 hours lol. we've seen lots of pictures of your frame but how about that engine?
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Well, when I got it home the honda 13hp that was on it was siezed, the picture I posted earlier of the broken exhaust acted as a funnel for the rain to fill the top of the cylinder, before I found the forum I had already removed the head and got it to free up, honed the section after scrubbing with oil and rags, checked for spark and put it back together. It turns over with the rope, but is probably going to be set aside for later, and I'm scavenging a honda 9hp from my shaller kart, the jackshaft and clutch stuff from the 13hp will all bolt over when I'm ready. Till I get the dingo painted and rolling I'll keep the shaller to drive as it sits, for now...
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