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Old 02-05-2017, 10:44 AM
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Okay 2017 is here... I have been a part of this great place for sometime now, I have had some good builds in that time too, and have decided it is about time to enter the build off.

I have decided to join DIYGK's two main vehicles of daily disccussions - together.

I have decided to make a big tire minibike with a two seater gokart-sidecar.

I will use a 212 Predator and torque converter for a power plant, I will make safer, and better big tire sidecar. The sidecar is going to be a leaner style like my first sidecar build.

This is going to be cool, so hold onto your keyboards and enjoy the ride!
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Nice! This will be cool. And your avatar wants to give me nightmares.
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Old 02-05-2017, 06:18 PM
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All unnecessary parts removed off of the go kart.
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Old 02-05-2017, 06:21 PM
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One seat in front and one seat in back. Rear seat will be slightly higher than the seat in front.

I am also considering making a seat and sissy bar for a rider behind the driver. Four people on one bike, yeah this will be awesome.
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You think a 212 will move four people?
1 adult and 3 toddlers maybe.
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:35 PM
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I know it will... torque converter and geared low. I could always use my 7" driven if needed too.

---------- Post added at 06:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:34 PM ----------

It moves 300lbs karts with 2 passengers
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This will indeed be a grand build!
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Old 02-05-2017, 11:20 PM
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You need a Caster Wheel for the Front of the Kart! LOL
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:48 AM
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Oh wait. you need to argue on the rules then. Says 1 or 2 people machines. not 3 4. But i think in all fairness your go kart with 4 people is reasonable. Looks like fun. Dangerous fun for the passengers in the back!
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by the looks I'm a bit concerned about the kart chassis -excuse me- sidecar flexing under load due to a lack of front wheels, an enormous lever and a considerable amount of weight in front of the pivot (rear wheel)

So may I suggest installing a hidden caster wheel under the front axle beam?

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Old 02-06-2017, 02:41 PM
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Really caster?
That would just wobble like a son of a *itch.


I have given the thought of it flexing...
I was thinking of making the some additional under frame bracing. I will put pics up as I go.
I found a good source for info on sidecar construction, I believe this will all be possible.
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Noooo, it won't!
I'm not talking about a shopping cart steel cheap caster, neither one from your desk chair..
I'm talking about a full sized caster wheel like you find on some heavy duty warehouse equipment,
maybe even make one yourself (a mini-bike fork and a kart wheel and another bearing or two)
bracing is okay.. but that layout is ... uhm...
let's say you'd need a full cage to brace that enough with the pivot as far back.
a caster is much slicker (hehe) and if done correctly won't wobble at all

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Old 02-06-2017, 06:46 PM
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Okay thanks.

I will take all of this and consideration. And I have been thinking about a full cage. I don't plan on the cart to be that far forward, nothing is welded yet just mocking up.
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So may I suggest installing a hidden caster wheel under the front axle beam? sid
Let the Record Show I suggested this First!
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I know I know!!! lol
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thinking about it... you might even be able to make it a "steering" wheel
just a trailing arm on your bikes front fork, a tie rod and voila... *shrugs*

Ah well.. you'll figure something out

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COOL project very interesting.

Makes me wonder about the feasibility of making an engine/drive wheel that can be attached to a mini bike frame or attached to a gokart frame or combine the two into something cool like your building so basically you'd have 3 vehicle configurations.
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Needs to be like batmobile. like the sidecar can eject from the bike and drive by itself! id vote for that even if i only had one vote to give.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:52 AM
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I want to post this -----> http://www.haulnride.com/leaner_sidecars.html As I did in my other sidecar build. This is where I am getting most of my info and links from on my leaner style sidecar.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:54 PM
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Welded this 1/4" thick plate for front brace.
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