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Old 10-12-2019, 10:45 AM
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Default OLD BKS Ground Hog transforming into a race machine

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** BEFORE YOU BEGIN --- There is no plan to race this kart lol just want it to look awesome and I mis-worded the title --- sorry in advance ..... AND BEGIN **

As you guess by my name I am a NOOB and I dont have a problem admitting to it. I am new to the gokart game as far as building and rebuilding. I have wanted to do this for a long time and I finally just decided to stop thinking about it and to just do it!

SOOO .... Here we go!

I picked up this frame which I believe is an old BKS Groundhog frame for $50. The seller also sold me a used "Predator 212" for $50 also.

I say "Predator" because the seller told me thats what it was but the only thing I see that says Predator is the gas tank.

I am not too worried about that motor as I will use it to learn on as I have a brand new in box Predator 212 waiting.

My goal/ vision is to turn this old frame in a neon orange blur with some fat racing slicks.

I hope it can be done but I am a NOOB and I dont know what parts will work with the frame and what I can or cannot get away with.

My first initial concern is where the engine plate is located.

Any advice you guys wanna give is helpful and appreciated. I am super NOOB but I am capable.

Here is the pic of the frame.

STEP 1:

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Old 10-12-2019, 11:14 AM
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Well, looks like you'll need a lot of parts to get that thing driveable.
Right off the bat:
axle
steering wheel
spindles
tie rods
seat
sprocket
brake system
and obviously, wheels and tires.

The engine location is not unusual at all, my kart is like that. And no it doesn't really affect handling or anything negatively.
Yes that is a Predator 212.
First worry about getting it to the roller stage, and then going and stopping will follow.
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Thank you for that info and a good place to start.

Here is what I want to turn this into but with my own personal touches.
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Old 10-12-2019, 11:26 AM
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I should also source some good parts places:
www.ombwarehouse.com (my favorite)
www.bmikarts.com
www.gopowersports.com
www.mfgsupply.com

Whenever you order parts, make sure to measure where it attaches to the frame to make sure it is compatible.
You don't want to order a $50 just to find out it doesn't fit.
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Well...one thing's for sure...you know exactly what you need to get it the way you want it... EVERYTHING!!! You got your work cut out for you, but, you won't have to worry about old Rusty parts, everything will look great because it'll be brand new!!! Nothing wrong with that though...I suggest do it a little at a time so it won't become overwhelming to your wallet.

Good luck and post pics!

I wanna see it come together!
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:07 AM
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Yup, thank you!

That is exactly my plan!

I just have to figure out what parts work together.

I am NOOBtastic so I dont know much of anything when it comes to GK parts.

Can you guys tell me if these wheels and tires will work together so I can make this a rolling chasis?

Wheels:
https://www.bmikarts.com/6-VanK-P-Ze...-4_p_8156.html
2 wheels - 6.5"x 2.5" (Front)
2 wheels - 10"x 4" (Back)

Tires:
https://www.bmikarts.com/6-Unilli-Ra...-6_p_5062.html
https://www.bmikarts.com/6-Unilli-Ra...-6_p_5059.html

And I am guessing that if I buy this combo (assuming it will work together) I will also need to buy a spindles for the front?

If you guys want to point my towards which spindles I would need that would be so helpful!

Also, how do I know what size tie rods I need? Just measure in mm from the steering column to the spindle?

And what size live axle do I need? I know I can pick whatever I want but is there any info on this wheels I picked that point me towards a specific size?

Thanks again all!
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:42 PM
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Made some progress today, started trying to sand it down and get rid of surface rust and old paint.
Pretty hard to get in the small bends and welds, not sure what I am going to do with those areas.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:44 PM
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I used to have a bks ground hawg they are big and steer real wonky if you have a welder make it have proper Akerman steering with a good amount of camber when turning trust me my little ken bar moves and if it didn't have the steering the way it is, I would've been dead by now
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