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Old 03-12-2019, 03:48 PM
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I've never seen one like this. Does anyone recognize it? Any help would be appreciated... thanks!!
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I'll tell you one thing.
It looks OLD!
Kinda looks like the prewar Grand Prix racers, with the bicycle-skinny wheels and all.
At first I thought REDNEECK! Then I saw how intricate the frame really is. Interesting half-live axle thingy, fascinating solution to one wheel peel.
Nice Briggs!
If you can obtain that kart, that would be interesting.
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I'll tell you one thing.
It looks OLD!
Kinda looks like the prewar Grand Prix racers, with the bicycle-skinny wheels and all.
At first I thought REDNEECK! Then I saw how intricate the frame really is. Interesting half-live axle thingy, fascinating solution to one wheel peel.
Nice Briggs!
If you can obtain that kart, that would be interesting.
I was thinking the same thing! At first... not old, homemade, but the more I look at it I wonder what it really is!
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That had better have one GOL-DURN of a gear reduction with those bike tires!
Buy it! I WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT IT!
And I just noticed that's a jackshaft...
The butterfly steering wheel is very interestin'.
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I found some more pictures of it that I haven't been able upload yet. I'm leaning towards older, but not really old. Motor is too new (obviously could be a replacement). Trying to see how some of it is put together. The pictures are all bad.

That jackshaft is old though!

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Steering wheel view...
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It has certainly been taken care of:
Air's in the tires
Paint looks good
Engine looks good
I don't see rust
The seat looks good
What's that guage on there?
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I think it was found in a storage unit or at least has been kept in one. The gauge is from the Briggs motor on the back.
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What's the guage read? Amps? RPM? Oil pressure?
Is there anything connected to the steering shaft? 'Cause it doesn't look like it.
Also, does the engine run?
What's the ownership status?
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It's an ad up for sale locally. They're asking a lot of money for it. They don't appear to know what it is based on the description. Pictures are bad. I can't seem to get the couple of others I have to upload. The jackshaft looks really old.

My hesitation to contact them right now is because I tend to buy weird things a lot. I have a few too many weird things right now and they seem to sell for a whole lot less than I paid for them when the time comes for them to go...lol.

I'm trying to figure out if it's just something really cool or perhaps worth the investment before I try to set a value. I don't mind buying it just because, but that would be for a fraction of the asking price.

You're right about the steering. Nothing appears attached. Again, I ran into steering issues with a reverse trike I bought that was made out of a pony cart. So cool and stupid, but I couldn't get it to turn worth a darn. Maybe simple tie rods, maybe something that needs real fabrication.

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Here is the rear end.
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Weird things tend to be obscure things.
Thus, when you try to sell, people usually don't know what the heck you're talking about and lowball your price.
Contact them and try to see it in person. Also, what price is it even listed at?
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They're asking $1,000
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Nope, not for me.
One: Way too expensive
Two: Belt clutch
I stay away from belts' cause I don't wanna have to pay for belts all the time if I burn them out!
Good ol' drum clutches...
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I'm right there with you at this point. I'm not into restorations, but I do love the odd!
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Yeeeaaahh, $1000?
NEXT!
Don't bother, but thanks for posting about it.
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Well it does look interesting...if it had a cool historical background it might be worth buying but other than that I would likely let it pass but the pics are awesome. Thanks for sharing.

I would dare say that yes the steering is indeed attached and in working order. Think of it as two bicycle forks. The steering shaft hooks to a center drag beam that in turn attaches to the aft end of both steering forks. Depending on the caster of the forks and weight load and leverage of all of this setup steering might not be pleasant. One would have to drive it and experience the ride for himself I would think. Hard to say by just looking at it. Could go either way. I can't imagine this thing being a fast or comfortable ride for that matter either way. You have to admit though the fabricator had one heck of an imagination and a good set of skills to go with it. That thing would cost a small fortune to frame up in today's money...and be a pain in the butt to radius all those pipe bends...at least for me a man with no pipe bending tools! I would love to drive it but I would think anything over 30 mph would require a helmet, body armor , and good insurance!!!
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Well it does look interesting...if it had a cool historical background it might be worth buying but other than that I would likely let it pass but the pics are awesome. Thanks for sharing.

I would dare say that yes the steering is indeed attached and in working order. Think of it as two bicycle forks. The steering shaft hooks to a center drag beam that in turn attaches to the aft end of both steering forks. Depending on the caster of the forks and weight load and leverage of all of this setup steering might not be pleasant. One would have to drive it and experience the ride for himself I would think. Hard to say by just looking at it. Could go either way. I can't imagine this thing being a fast or comfortable ride for that matter either way. You have to admit though the fabricator had one heck of an imagination and a good set of skills to go with it. That thing would cost a small fortune to frame up in today's money...and be a pain in the butt to radius all those pipe bends...at least for me a man with no pipe bending tools! I would love to drive it but I would think anything over 30 mph would require a helmet, body armor , and good insurance!!!
I agree with everything you said! The steering will be terrible, most likely, even if it is complete. It's the frame that is the attention grabber. It would make an interesting parade vehicle if nothing else.

I think I'm going to let it sit for a while and see what happens. I'm still interested, but not $1,000 interested. I have an auctioneer friend who finds lots of stuff that "looks old" for his auction every week. Turns out there are warehouses in KY full of "old looking" stuff. This could be one of those types of things too.
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kinda reminds me of that 1915 Smith Flyer
(was an article in musclecarzone.com a while ago)

but that's just the wheels.. If i had to put a finger on it..
I'd say it's a bad attempt to make a nice looking cycle kart

And frankly IYAM that atttempt is not too long ago,
the rears look like 1980s and the bike front wheels appear to have aluminium rims..

Nah, that thing isn't anywhere close to 1k ...
not to average joe at least.

Sure if you happen to know who made it and run a museum
or are a serious collector of stranger things ... why not.

but it's not in it's original state
(just alone that the chassis seems to ask for a 30's style race car body)
the bicycle parts (head tubes, forks....)
and even the strange wide bowed frame tubing makes me doubt it's
anything but homemade within the last [max 35] years.

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OMG!!!!
That's MY kart! It was stolen 2 years ago!!!!

Sorry guys, I couldn't help myself.....

I have no idea what that is, but it's Jay Leno cool.
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