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Old 11-28-2019, 11:58 AM
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Been doin some research
& came across ads for this Percival's Hellcat

The ads say, its designed by Frank Kurtis (designer of Indy cars)
& Rodger Ward (1959 Indy 500 winner) was a test driver & racing consultant
& it was built by Percival Manufacturing Co. of Des Moines, Iowa

It looks to be a pretty simple design
...but, seems to have many unique features

Continuous 1-piece frame (A1S1 4130 Chrome Moly 1" 14g. tubing, reinforced with special stress plates)

Cushion Engine Swing Mount (vibration free ride)

Unique front axle design

Specs.

Engine - Westbend 610

Brake - 6" Bendix (internal expanding)

Weight - 112 lbs.
Length - 55"
Width - 36"
Wheelbase - 42"

Front Axle Geometry
Castor - 16*
Camber - 0*
KPI - 7*
Toe-In - 1/16"

Wheels - Magnesium
Rears - 5"
Front - 4"

* I did a forum search but, didn't find any

Anyone ever had one?
...or seen one?

The first pic (below) seems to be an article out of a karting magazine
...where they test drove one (with a pretty positive review)

** Yup, I'm thinkin' an electric one would be (insert fav expletive here)
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Haha, Dodge is a copycat!
Not really, but that's what I thought when I opened this thread.
Chromoly? Niiiiice.....
Probably ridiculously few have survived.
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Found one (post #36)
Donald E. Jones has/had one (thread is ~5 years old)
...looks to be a wild cat though (notice the rear trailing arms)
http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthr...t=18298&page=2

Here is another thread about it, with more pics
http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24416

Hmmm, wonder why the search function didn't find it?
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The images are too small to be uploaded as thumbnails I guess. Can't zoom in.
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The images are too small to be uploaded as thumbnails I guess. Can't zoom in.
Yup, I wish I could read that ad too

maybe someone can fix/enlarge it for us
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Nope, enlarging it to 300% on Firefox just makes the poor resolution worse, with all the smaller letters completely unintelligible.
Ah well.
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Nope, enlarging it to 300% on Firefox just makes the poor resolution worse, with all the smaller letters completely unintelligible.
Ah well.
Thanks for tryin'

Lookin' further, I found a couple videos of a restored one
...more info too

It seems like the ones designated Hellcat had a single engine
& the Wildcats had twin/dual engines



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A friends father ran one pretty successfully on dirt ovals in the early 60s with a Clinton engine on alcohol.
I’m trying to get him to restore it.
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A friends father ran one pretty successfully on dirt ovals in the early 60s with a Clinton engine on alcohol.
Im trying to get him to restore it.
Kool!

Please post some pics of it, if you can


I tried something different
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I found a few more ads
& a couple of more pics
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Well, lookie here, I found another one right here on the forum (from back in 2010)

Seems to be an older one (1960ish) before they added the "live axle"

http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7487
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Still researchin'
& found a neat article

"The History of Go Kart Mfg. Co.
as recounted by Don Boberick (9/18/98):

As to Go Kart Manufacturing, Co. Inc., it came into being in 1958. The principles, Duffy Livingstone and Roy Desbrow, were partners in a muffler business called "GP Mufflers," in Monrovia, California. Both Duff and Roy were experts at fabricating welded components. After seeing Art Ingles' one-off creation, Duffy and Roy fabricated their own versions and then improved on them. And, Duffy built a couple for friends (including Bill Jeffery who did the upholstery for everybody - that's Bill in the above racing photo). Bill Rowles, then a salesman of surplus materials in the L.A. area, was a frequent visitor at the GP Muffler shop in Monrovia. Bill had located a source of inexpensive engines from a failed West Bend rotary lawn mower venture. The three individuals, operating out of GP Muffler's facilities, formed a loose partnership to manufacture and sell kit components for karts. They called them "Go Karts" after the name Lynn Wineland, a commercial artist, had coined in an ad referring to GP's products. "Dart Kart" was another Lynn Wineland creation. The kits GP produced were offered mail order for $129 and the business grew like Topsy.

I can remember one day lounging in the small office at GP Muffler with Bill Rowles and Duffy Livingstone when the postman came by with a handful of envelopes addressed to "Go Kart Manufacturing" and saying "It looks like another thirty orders today, guys." That kind of demand became constant and it became apparent that the business had to be elevated several levels. I formed a corporation for the company and it leased a five acre facility in Azusa from AeroJet General Corporation. The company had six stockholders. Roy Desbrow, Duffy Livingstone and Bill Rowles were the principal stockholders. Jim Patronite (the company's accountant, who later formed Azusa Engineering), myself and the companiy's office manager were the three minor stockholders. Go Kart Manufacturing Co. Inc. continued to thrive in its Azusa facilities into 1963.

In 1962, Art Linkletter Enterprises made an offer of $750,000 for purchase of the shares. The offer called for $250,000 up front with the balance of $500,000 to be paid at the end of one year. Go Kart declined that offer because the proposal gave management control to the Linkletter group prior to final payment and we did not trust their ability manage the company. Unfortunately Go Kart had, less than a year earlier, hired a very experienced, energetic and enthusiastic individual to manage the sales end of the business. To promote the product, Go Kart began to fly the six driver and four mechanic racing team, seven or eight karts plus spare parts to places like Mansfield, Ohio, Rockford, Illinois and the Bahamas. As spending escalated, sales hit a plateau industry wide. From just a handful of manufactures in 1959 the industry had grown to over thirty manufacturers by 1962. Go Kart failed to accommodate the recession in sales of its products by cutting back on spending. It went into bankruptcy.

One bit of irony in the demise of Go Kart Manufacturing Co, Inc. is that for a couple of years Go Kart was involved in trade mark litigation with Fox Body Company of Janesville, WI, over the trade mark "Go Kart." Fox called their kart the "Go Boy Kart" which we said was akin to calling a cola drink "Coca Boy Cola." Fox, on the other hand filed a petition to dissolve our trade mark "Go Kart," claiming it was generic. After Go Kart Mfg.. went through bankruptcy, Fox bought the "Go Kart" name for just a few dollars from the bankrupt estate. That was "Go Kart" from beginning to end--with a lot of fun in between."

https://www.vintagekarts.com/historyGKMfg.htm
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There's one in the middle of the first picture here: http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthr...hlight=hellcat
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This is the Percival as it was unearthed in the garage.
Same condition as it was parked in the mid 60s minus the seat which rodents tore up for a nest.
Got some additions for contact inherent on dirt ovals.Itll take some work but it’s all there.
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