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Well,
After getting everything unhooked from the controller ...down loading the programming software from Kelly Controls ...wiring up a separate power supply & return (negative) I went to attach it to the laptop ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I have the RS232 converter to attach to the controller ...but, the other end is to connect to a desk top computer ...NOT a laptop So, now I need a cord with the RS232 on one end ...& USB on the other ...so, then I can attach it to a laptop Yes, I thought about bringing the motorcycle inside ![]() But, I could NOT get my wife to understand ![]() |
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![]() I call it "un-co-operative" It's NOT the dirty "Beast" that it used to be It's like a cleaner more refined "Athlete" NOW ![]() ...NO smelly gas ...No oil to drip ...NO hot pipes But, it's kuhl! (Not the first time she didn't go for one of my ideas) So, I ordered the "right" cord ...& a 48V solenoid (from Kelly Controls) while I was at it ![]() ...they should be in next week ![]() |
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Really great work!
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Still waiting for the "right" cord to program the speed controller
While waitin' I was thinking ...about the state of charge meter As of now, I use (2) alligator clips to connect the meter to the 36V bat tree pack ...(1) to the positive (+) ...& (1) to the negative (-) terminal But, it's a pain & inconvenient to have to manually connect & disconnect it every time So, I was thinkin' ...maybe I can use a relay to switch the 36V meter on & off with the 12V motorcycle ignition * I am Not sure if a 12V relay can handle 36V runnin' thru it But, were gonna find out ![]() |
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I was going to go with a relay like that with a 12v switch for one of my projects when I found this key switch:
http://forum.modifiedelectricscooter...2ff55c6#p29806 (Sorry, I can't find the product id number for you). As I said in the post, I hooked it up it it worked fine, (and has been for the last 8 months). I liked the clean "factory" look that it gave the project. However, if your going to have a kid using it, make sure to keep the spares in a safe place!
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No kids will be riding El Moto
*It has a 8kw motor ![]() I could easily add a second switch but, I want to turn everything on &/or off with just the stock key switch "Idiot Proof" is one of my new goals ...leave NOTHING to chance ![]() |
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LOL, yeah, I was thinking the same on my "Beast" build with it's 6kw motor. Then I caught my 12 year old daughter trying to hot wire it! That's one of the reasons I put a key switch on it.
And then shrink wrapped everything else so she would have a harder time getting around the key!
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Got our order from Kelly
![]() The RS232 to USB convertor came with a "driver disc" But, my lap top don't have a slot for a disc ![]() Really!? ![]() You gotta be kiddin' me ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ima gonna upgrade 'er to 48V instead ![]() Just gotta ...switch out the 36V solenoid with the 48V solenoid ...& reconfigure the cables to include the 4th bat tree Last edited by Functional Artist; 09-26-2017 at 07:58 AM. Reason: add video |
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I switched out the 36V solenoid with the 48V solenoid
I made up (3) new matching connector cables ...to connect the bat trees in series The original cables I made up for El Dingo were different lengths ...they worked but, since I have found out that the bat tree pack should be set up as a single unit ALL ...of the connectors (terminals) should match ...of the wires or cables should be of the same material & length This should reduce the likelihood of resistance differences that may cause problems in the bat tree pack Then, I reconfigured the bat tree cables to include the 4th bat tree Next, I wanted to cover up all of these open terminals on the bat trees, solenoid, cut-off switch & the controller So, I rounded up like (20) rubber bat tree terminal covers off of old riding lawn mowers ...had to do some body work to make them work Lets see what 48V can do ![]() |
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Cool!
Heh I want to put an electric motor on my atv project for reverse. Could you throw some ideas on a motor out I'm completely clueless on the electrical. I'm using a 420 predator with electric start and a winch so I'm gonna have a 12v battery on it. Or at least I guess it's 12v lol. |
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I received the 48V to 12V voltage reducer I ordered for El Moto
The one I ordered is for adding lights & a car stereo to golf carts. They come in 10A, 20A, & 30A models I don't think the motorcycle's 12V system should draw over 10A but, I got the 20A to be sure ![]() I removed the rectifier (unneeded part of the gas engine battery charging system) ...to make room for the voltage reducer I wired a fuse holder/20A fuse into the (red) 48V positive (+) input coming from the bat tree pack to the voltage reducer ...& wired the (black) 48V negative (-) to the bat tree pack I wired the (yellow) 12V output & the 12V negative (-) to the motorcycle's electric system Before final connection to the bike ...I checked the out put with the MMeter ...meter shows 12.2V ![]() Tested all systems ...head lights (low & high) ...turn signals ...brake light ...even the horn ...ALL systems checked OK ![]() |
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NICE!!
I want to do a motorcycle conversion some day. However, I'm currently living between to countries and where I'm a legal resident, (Quebec), the government would still consider a conversion a motorcycle. Why is this a problem, you might ask? Well... a plate for a motorcycle cost $900.00 CDN, (about $720.00 USD), a YEAR! Plus another $130.00 CDN a year on your driver license! (Sigh), I can't wait until I move back to the US full time..... BTW, why did you go with SLA"s instead of lithium's?
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---------- Post added at 06:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:55 PM ---------- Nah, you need an air horn that comes with a Surgeon Generals warning not to use near people with heart conditions!
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Thank you ![]() It's was the additional cost mainly. & the baby step concept I already had ...(4) of the 12V 35AH solar batteries ...& a charger ...& a little knowledge about them My main goal was to complete a functional conversion ...then work on performance & longevity & lightening it up ...& research/learn more about lithium's ![]() But, yes, Lithium batteries are in the near future (maybe next summer) I set the motorcycle up (space wise) for a 48V section of ...a Chevy Volt battery pack ...it should be a 48V 47AH battery pack weighing ~45 lbs. ![]() * The SLA's do the job for now but, ...the (4) 12V 35AH batteries weigh ~80 lbs. -combined ...& take like 8 hrs. to fully charge (for ~a 1/2 hr. ride) ![]() * It will be interesting to see how much the lighter/more powerful Lithium's will extend ride time & reduce the recharge time ![]() |
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I forgot to ask, what type of mileage per charge are you getting?
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...I racked up like~8 or 9 miles Not super ![]() ...but it was a really fun 1/2 hour ![]() |
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Quick update
I have done lots & lots more research First, I discovered a few things that I set up kinda wrong ![]() ...the main power disconnect cannot be turned off (in an emergency) while riding the motorcycle (it's too far away) ...the speed controller on/off switch cannot be turned off (in an emergency) while riding, either (it's under the seat) So, this spring, when I upgrade 'er to a 45V 2Kwh section of a Chevy Volt battery I am going to mount a circuit breaker right on the battery lid, next to the positive (+) terminal Reasoning: This way it will be within reach of the rider (& eliminate a battery cable) I am also going to (try) a 48V 150A circuit breaker, instead of the 500A fuse, that I am currently using Reasoning: Circuit breakers are resettable (if you blow a fuse, you better have a spare-with you) ...& I may be able to use it as a governor to help limit the amp draw For the speed controller on/off switch I am going to connect the speed controller on/off wires to a relay, that's connected where the engine spark coil wires used to connect Reasoning: This way I can use the "stock" motorcycle off/run/off switch (on the handle bar) to turn the speed controller on/off just like "from the factory" ![]() ...& (I have not tried it yet) but, I think, the "stock" key switch should also turn the speed controller off ...kinda like a "double safety", in case I forget ![]() More to come
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I forgot to note some of the research, I have done to advance this project so, to kinda conglomerate things Here is the thread where I posted a lot of the Chevy Volt (lithium) battery info http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38167 Here is the thread where I posted a lot of info on power disconnect switches http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38358 I did a lot of research on using a BMS (Battery Management System) but, then thought I could go "low tech" & just use a Batt-Bridge along with an Amp/Volt meter Here is the thread where I posted a lot of info on Batt-Bridges (Battery Pack Balance Monitor) http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38400 & Here is the thread where I posted a lot of info on using an Amp/Volt meter http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38583
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No, I beat everyone to it^__^
Seems your all fairly young here? I'm an old fart! I've been at it since the early 70's! None of this is new! electric cars were around before gas! I always wanted to do a steam engine! Gramp's was a train engineer! Live long and ride sweet^__^ |
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