Go Back   DIY Go Kart Forum > Announcements & Suggestions > FAQ & Articles

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 04-03-2010, 06:26 PM
solomon solomon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
Posts: 1,648
Thanks: 62
Thanked 65 Times in 49 Posts
Default

But can't that effect the end play? Otherwise i like the idea.
  #42  
Old 04-03-2010, 06:38 PM
freakboy's Avatar
freakboy freakboy is offline
the names 'mater
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: hick town
Posts: 3,961
Thanks: 134
Thanked 92 Times in 81 Posts
Default

yeah it will keep the end play were u want it.
  #43  
Old 04-03-2010, 06:45 PM
Kaptain Krunch's Avatar
Kaptain Krunch Kaptain Krunch is offline
Pro Junk Collector
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: vermont
Posts: 4,596
Thanks: 66
Thanked 321 Times in 296 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by solomon View Post
But can't that effect the end play? Otherwise i like the idea.
Says the guy who was using silicone. Put it together and check end-play, good chance its within spec, cereal box cardboard is fairly similar thickness to the stock gasket.
__________________
"If you want, I can teach you how to make a bomb out of a toilet paper roll and a stick of dynamite"
  #44  
Old 04-03-2010, 07:45 PM
solomon solomon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
Posts: 1,648
Thanks: 62
Thanked 65 Times in 49 Posts
Default

And since I haven't used silicone...
  #45  
Old 04-03-2010, 09:44 PM
brendonv's Avatar
brendonv brendonv is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Australia, Perth
Posts: 861
Thanks: 1
Thanked 52 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Cereal box works wonders for many gaskets. Its basically free where as gasket paper can get a bit pricey sometimes.
__________________
www.youtube.com/brendonv101
www.youtube.com/SeeAustralia
  #46  
Old 04-03-2010, 11:08 PM
solomon solomon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
Posts: 1,648
Thanks: 62
Thanked 65 Times in 49 Posts
Default

I wish I had know that a few weeks ago when i wasted $6 on a side cover gasket...
  #47  
Old 04-04-2010, 07:17 AM
Kaptain Krunch's Avatar
Kaptain Krunch Kaptain Krunch is offline
Pro Junk Collector
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: vermont
Posts: 4,596
Thanks: 66
Thanked 321 Times in 296 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by solomon View Post
And since I haven't used silicone...
Quote:
Originally Posted by solomon View Post
Well i have ALWAYS used silicone for the side cover gaskets, and i use high temp silicone for this. Like i said if you want the silicone to be removed i can remove it. I put a lot of time in this TUT and don't want it shot down =P
Contradictory?
__________________
"If you want, I can teach you how to make a bomb out of a toilet paper roll and a stick of dynamite"
  #48  
Old 04-04-2010, 10:53 PM
brendonv's Avatar
brendonv brendonv is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Australia, Perth
Posts: 861
Thanks: 1
Thanked 52 Times in 48 Posts
Default

A lot of time? I dont want to be mean but dude thats hardly a come back. Making this tutorial would of taken like 5 mins or 10 max. All u need to do is take a couple of snaps while removing the governor and then explain them.

Dont take this the wrong way its a good tutorial minus a few parts already explained but i wouldnt call it a long time.
__________________
www.youtube.com/brendonv101
www.youtube.com/SeeAustralia
  #49  
Old 04-05-2010, 11:29 AM
acg23's Avatar
acg23 acg23 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: bay area
Posts: 196
Thanks: 30
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Default

i just was careful when removing the cover and was able to reuse my gasket. workd fine.
  #50  
Old 04-05-2010, 12:26 PM
solomon solomon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
Posts: 1,648
Thanks: 62
Thanked 65 Times in 49 Posts
Default

Thats what i always hope for!
  #51  
Old 04-05-2010, 08:56 PM
brendonv's Avatar
brendonv brendonv is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Australia, Perth
Posts: 861
Thanks: 1
Thanked 52 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by acg23 View Post
i just was careful when removing the cover and was able to reuse my gasket. workd fine.
Look out for leaking gaskets. As its already been used its already fully compressed and wont compress a lot if any to re seal it. U can get away with re using them most of the time but if u see u have a little puddle under ur engine after a few days then make a new one. I just make new ones every time. Its easier then re using and finding out its leaking and have to pull the whole thing apart again (i speak from experience, very annoying. I had already mounted it on the kart and set it up and found out it was fuking leaking the next day.)
__________________
www.youtube.com/brendonv101
www.youtube.com/SeeAustralia
  #52  
Old 04-05-2010, 09:05 PM
acg23's Avatar
acg23 acg23 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: bay area
Posts: 196
Thanks: 30
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Default

its been fine so far, but ill watch for it.thanks for the tip.
  #53  
Old 04-05-2010, 09:12 PM
sideways's Avatar
sideways sideways is offline
Unfinished projects king.
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 1,501
Thanks: 50
Thanked 164 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Also, you didn't torque the bolts on the side cover which can affect many things.

Hayden
  #54  
Old 04-06-2010, 12:49 AM
EagleTalons's Avatar
EagleTalons EagleTalons is offline
Master JB Welder
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Forsyth, Montana
Posts: 1,100
Thanks: 21
Thanked 48 Times in 48 Posts
Default

Indeed. I had my side cover crack out from improper torquing. Also I just threaded a bolt into my governor hole. Never backed out or anything.

Its a decent tutorial. But do it by the book ya know? Not just "oh you can redneck this together" Or use silly putty for a plug.
  #55  
Old 04-21-2010, 05:15 PM
gocart gocart is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 47
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny_McCormic View Post
.010" is pretty thick.
A credit card is .76mm thick, this is about .030" thick. So .010" is 1/3 of the thickness of a credit card.
  #56  
Old 04-21-2010, 05:17 PM
gocart gocart is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 47
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brendonv View Post
Cereal box works wonders for many gaskets. Its basically free where as gasket paper can get a bit pricey sometimes.

Dude, I really wish you had not put that idea in my head!! As soon as I get home I am gonna get serious with a razor knife and everything that even resembles a ceral box, MuHhaha!! Seriously that sounds like a good idea (asumming that I can do it fast enough to make it worth it).
  #57  
Old 04-21-2010, 05:21 PM
gocart gocart is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 47
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazkowiez View Post
You have really small hands... that Dave guy would love this posting. (just kidding dude, but please dont go to his farm alone)

On a side note, just to help people understand what removing the governor on an engine usually leads to, I'll use this illustration...



All pictures I'm posting btw are taken by me from the shop. Pwn.


Yup that is the first image that popped into my head when I first read the title of this thread. I once re-assembled an engine and did not realise the importance of setting the governor. When I fired it up it revved up to some ungodly speed and it did it so quick that I could not turn it off in time. It shot a rod throw the side. Now the slightest mention of the word "governor" just makes me cringe.


So exactly what do you gain by removing the governor anyway?
  #58  
Old 04-21-2010, 08:04 PM
solomon solomon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ca
Posts: 1,648
Thanks: 62
Thanked 65 Times in 49 Posts
Default

You gain more RPM witch gives you more speed, but less torque. That is a Tecumseh and the failure rate of a Tecumseh compared to a Briggs throwing rods is WAY higher. Tecumseh makes very poor quality rods.
  #59  
Old 04-21-2010, 08:13 PM
Blazkowiez's Avatar
Blazkowiez Blazkowiez is offline
Kart Aficionado
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,538
Thanks: 22
Thanked 332 Times in 248 Posts
Default

I would say these are equally low quality, removing the governor was the first thing done to modify most briggs 5hp engines when there was a solid race circuit for them...

Guess what, we couldn't keep enough blocks in stock for people blowing them up, we'd sell them every time we got a dual bearing block, it would be gone the day we put it on the shelf.

Your statements are unfounded, these engines blow up just as easily as each other. The only engine on the big 3 market that can easily hold up over 4k rpm is Honda, both Briggs and Tecumseh tend to pop on average once they go over 3800.

Ride your engine around hard and tell me how long it stays alive without the governor. Please.
__________________
gokartrepair.com. Family owned and operated in Houston for 40 years. Parts-Service-Advice
The Following User Says Thank You to Blazkowiez For This Useful Post:
TOO FAST (04-22-2010)
  #60  
Old 04-21-2010, 08:28 PM
gocart gocart is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 47
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Mine was a briggs that threw the rod. My 5hp briggs (aftermarket cam is the only mod) is way fast enough with a governor. It actually scares the **** out of me when I am driving down the street at near top speed. I dont scare easy, I have a class A skydiving license. I just cant imagine someone wanting more speed out of it.
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:36 PM.