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Old 05-16-2017, 12:10 PM
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Every time I turn the bolt on the shaft it spins. Don't want to force anything...unless I'm supposed too. ... I pulled the snap ring and clutch with wiggle but not clear shaft to remove... or am I just a du-mas?
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:12 PM
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I would suggest an impact wrench, or there are usually "teeth" on the back of the clutch (side facing the engine), you can try and grab those with some big pliers and undo the bolt.

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This might be obvious, but some clutches have set screws on the inboard or outboard side. A little bit of PB Blaster sprayed lightly on the shaft allowed to soak for a bit might help too. If all else fails, a small gear puller always does the trick. Sometimes tapping (not hard) with a hammer and an oversized socket toward the block might be enough to get it moving. I would suggest a 3 arm puller to be on the safe side, you can rent them from most auto parts stores. Hope this helps.
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Check for setscrews, try to undo them carefully, if they are stripped, it'll be some big problem...

Heat the bolt on the shaft, use an impact tool to crack the bolt loose... Be carefull you don't giver too hard on the trigger... That'll snap off easilly if also not careful.
One could also use a breaker bar/T-handle to crack the bolt loose...

Penitrant lubricant helps aswell..
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okay just like installing the flywheel why not remove spark plug and shove a small rope into the opening. then turn until the piston compresses with said rope. then use whatever means you have to remove bolt.

you need a good amount of rope. i used ̶p̶a̶r̶a̶c̶o̶r̶d̶ last time i did it.

okay use cotton rope!!!!!!!!
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Cotton rope (yes cotton is important)
remove spark plug, feed in as much rope as you can (thus locking the piston)

undo bolt (tightenup fresh bolt with new clutch) .. pull rope out again... done!

Nylon rope could shred inside the engine (less pliable) and leave tiny fibres in the chamber which you do not want to happen, that's why cotton rope is indeed your best bet
(small cotton fibres burn quick leaving only carbon behind... not too harmfull)

OR a piston lock...

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Isn't para cord all nylon? Thanks for heads up I almost stuffed it with that.
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Yes entirely, sometimes now with an aramid polymer aswell..
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High quality (real!) paracord works well, the stuff you find at the hardwarestore for a dollar will NOT

reason: paracord is basically thinner climbing rope and designed not to fray easily when pulled over sharp edges.
If the end is sealed (welded correctly i.e neither loose fibres sticking out nor a hard lump of plastic at the end)
it should work.
Downside:
it's terribly hard to distinguish between good and bad paracord until you hit it's limits..
(which is always "too late" to make a better decision)

So, when it's important (and not just a bracelet,lanyard or alike)
either buy at a climbing store (where you are guaranteed to get specific strengths)
or skydiving equipment... "shops where life matters!"

or in this case.. the much easier
just stay away from nylon (or synthetics in general)

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Just in case you have no cotton rope, do not try cotton thread!
It takes about 50 spools, and is a real bugger to get out!

Edited to add: Cotton balls are a beech too!
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High quality (real!) paracord works well, the stuff you find at the hardwarestore for a dollar will NOT

reason: paracord is basically thinner climbing rope and designed not to fray easily when pulled over sharp edges.
If the end is sealed (welded correctly i.e neither loose fibres sticking out nor a hard lump of plastic at the end)
it should work.
Downside:
it's terribly hard to distinguish between good and bad paracord until you hit it's limits..
(which is always "too late" to make a better decision)

So, when it's important (and not just a bracelet,lanyard or alike)
either buy at a climbing store (where you are guaranteed to get specific strengths)
or skydiving equipment... "shops where life matters!"

or in this case.. the much easier
just stay away from nylon (or synthetics in general)

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Why didn't you tell me earlier! i could of messed my engine up

Seems like no issue so far with hardware store paracord. but maybe ill pick up some cotton for next time.

Funny(or sad maybe) i did use a lighter on the end to remove frayed ends before i used it. not sure if melted paracord (hard lump of plastic!) is worse then fibers getting in there.
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You were warned... Post pics. We are a truly sick bunch
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You were warned... Post pics. We are a truly sick bunch
At least the pic i posted had a cotton rope and not ̶p̶a̶r̶a̶c̶o̶r̶d̶
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Is that SOB STILL STUCK? Yep we gotta fix that crap asap....talk to me.

---------- Post added at 12:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:13 AM ----------

Hacksaw, dremil, 4" grinder, pulley puller , a little oxy Acetaline . Ānd 3 lbs of raman noodles ....must be beef flavored...we caņ do this. Have you tried the peanut butter trick yet?

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At least the pic i posted had a cotton rope and not ̶p̶a̶r̶a̶c̶o̶r̶d̶
True .... Give me a day I'll have him packing that one lunger full of noodles.
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I vote smoke wrench.
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