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Old 12-20-2019, 11:58 AM
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I think I may have found the answer for putting lighting coils on a predator. This:
https://www.gopowersports.com/cranks...2cc-tillotson/
It's a tillotson 212 crankshaft, so I'd think it should fit in a predator, but it says in the description:
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The KD212-1275 is the stock OEM crankshaft assembly for the 212cc Tillotson Engine (blue), with a 54.94mm (2.165") stroke. This Crankshaft accepts the clone/honda flywheels and connecting rods but has .040" more stroke then the 196/200's which makes this crank a cheap and easy way to produce more power.
So it accepts Honda and clone flywheels (according to GPS), which come with lighting coils.
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:35 PM
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you may still have no threaded holes to mount the actual coils in your predator.

the IMHO correct solution is to buy a rato p210-III with e-start
since that IS what HF sells you as a predator.. well with e-start of course and thus lighting coils

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Old 12-21-2019, 12:21 AM
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Now that has me wondering. I might pull the flywheel off one of my predators to see. But I remember that the low oil sensor mounting holes were tapped on my minibike which never had a low oil sensor (should be a rato if I remember). I have a non hemi that’s just sitting on a shelf that I’ve been meaning to re lap the flywheel on, since when I got it, it came on a kart that was sitting out in the rain without a muffler (there is a slight water stain halfway up the bore, but I can’t complain since it came with three karts for $300).
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I have one on my bench wit the flywheel off. The holes are tapped on my hemi. I havenít paid any attention to any of the others Iíve had apart.
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good to know..
I'm not sure if rato always had a e-start p210 or if that was a more recent addition.
but as long as 'some' are it's at least a chance..
Now all there's left to do is find a US supplier for rato spare parts I think

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PS the first tillotson were Ducar engines IIRC.. a 212 Ducar with e-start isn't too hard to find
really so that's still a very easy solution as well
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Old 12-24-2019, 03:45 PM
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I have one on my bench wit the flywheel off. The holes are tapped on my hemi. I havenít paid any attention to any of the others Iíve had apart.
I watched a YouTube video of someone adding the coils to a predator, if I remember correctly it was the non hemi and it had the threaded holes just like that.
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Old 12-24-2019, 07:58 PM
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My concerns were most a matter of age than a mater of headshape
I don't know if rato added e-start to their p210s recently or they always had an e-start 212 engine..
I know the p200 (196cc) always had an e-start option, I wasn't sure about the p210s
since there's little to no solid infos out there.

I'd say a fresh out of the box predator should be tapped... one you bought a few years ago... I have no clue!

So my best advice would be:
if you intend to try, take a quick peek under your flywheel just to be sure first

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Take the coils and flywheel from a clone and use them on a non-hemi 212. The flywheel taper is just slightly off but 5 min of lapping and it fits perfect. Don't forget to check and adjust your coil gap if necessary. I have done this on 3 different engines. The best source of coils and flywheels is off of a Baja warrior or Coleman ct200u-ex. People are always swapping predators on them.
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