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Old 10-22-2019, 08:30 PM
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I'm looking at some road car and yard karts that are one wheel drive. They have a band brake for that same one driv wheel. How well do these brake? Do they pull to one side when braking?

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Old 10-22-2019, 09:04 PM
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I'm looking at some road car and yard karts that are one wheel drive. They have a band brake for that same one driv wheel. How well do these brake? Do they pull to one side when braking?

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Better than, no brakes

Nope
& they don't "pull to one side" when accelerating either
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With my Adult Razor Dune Kart I tried one wheel drive by removing one wheel key. My attempt was to help with the turning radius but it was terrifying. Pulled to one side wheel accelerating and was very unstable braking. Maybe it was due to the extremely short wheelbase.
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e-Lemon-aid was/is a 1-wheel peel kart

http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=37442

I tried several motors on 'er & she never "pulled to one side"
...even with a 48V 1,000W MY-1020 or a 1,800W Boma motor

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I don't think you've driven my torque monster Starbird, Kevin.
It will violently torque steer to the right if I let it.
As far as brakes, I have no experience with the single band brake system, I have scrub brakes(which I'm honestly pretty satisfied with). It's fairly safe to assume a single band brake would be better than scrub brakes, though.
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I have 3 karts with the band brake setup and they stop fine. They are live axel though
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With my Adult Razor Dune Kart I tried one wheel drive by removing one wheel key. My attempt was to help with the turning radius but it was terrifying. Pulled to one side wheel accelerating and was very unstable braking. Maybe it was due to the extremely short wheelbase.
Your probably right about the short wheelbase

Now that I remember, the !Arriba kart pulls to one side
...depending on the throttle that's activated

*you can almost steer with just with the throttles

Here is an old video of my daughter ridin' 'er
...with just (1) motor installed




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I don't think you've driven my torque monster Starbird, Kevin.
It will violently torque steer to the right if I let it.
As far as brakes, I have no experience with the single band brake system, I have scrub brakes(which I'm honestly pretty satisfied with). It's fairly sake to assume a single band brake would be better than scrub brakes, though.
Can your "torque monster do this?

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I have 3 karts with the band brake setup and they stop fine. They are live axel though
I'm sorry, that has nothing to do with my question. lol

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Hey FA

If Arriba was a live axle kart, I bet it would wheelie even better with a single BLDC setup.
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[/COLOR]Hey FA
If Arriba was a live axle kart, I bet it would wheelie even better with a single BLDC setup.
I'm not sure if I would agree
...these 48V 1,000W MY-1020 (brushed) motors are little "BEASTS"
...they have massive amounts of torque coming out of that little 10mm shaft
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I'm not sure if I would agree
...these 48V 1,000W MY-1020 (brushed) motors are little "BEASTS"
...they have massive amounts of torque coming out of that little 10mm shaft

You're right, I forgot that I modified my 48v controller to put out more amps. My 48v bldc is around 2800 watts.
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I'm looking at some road car and yard karts that are one wheel drive. They have a band brake for that same one driv wheel. How well do these brake? Do they pull to one side when braking?

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This kart is what I set up for my kids, it's a dead axle, and has the single band brake attached to the drive wheel. Single wheel powers and stops the kart, and I believe it to be a close representative of your question.

It has a 4hp subaru, and standard yard kart features, geared too high still, but better than before at 5.7:1. It doesn't torque steer, and I only notice it pull to one side in braking if you lock up the tire at top speed ranges, which are over 30mph for this kart at the moment according to a speed recording app on my phone. For normal trail riding and conservative driving it does fine with the single wheel set-up, and unless you are going fairly "wild" with engine and gearing, a kids yard kart should be just fine. Hope I helped with your question!
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If the braking system is set up right, you will be locking up your tyres
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If the braking system is set up right, you will be locking up your tyres
You mean the one tire, but that wasn't my concern.

I guess I wasn't clear with my question though. What I was concerned about is the vehicle tracking straight and slowing down at a good rate with only one wheel doing the work. I've received a helpful response and am willing to buy a kart with one wheel braking if I see a good deal.

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You mean the one tire, but that wasn't my concern.

I guess I wasn't clear with my question though. What I was concerned about is the vehicle tracking straight and slowing down at a good rate with only one wheel doing the work. I've received a helpful response and am willing to buy a kart with one wheel braking if I see a good deal.

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I have never personally owned a one wheel peel kart, so I cannot speak from experience, but I haven't heard anyone on the forum ever negatively speak about not tracking straight due to one wheel being braked (or when accelerating hard).

I think you will do just fine if you buy one
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Teehee....
I'm that one weirdo whose kart doesn't want to track straight...
Granted though my axle is bent, and the steering leaves something to be desired.

OP - If it was good enough for companies like Manco to use it, I'd say it's fine.
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I do have a Manco that torque steers a little, but it has 9:1 gearing and a predator 212 almost stage one (po removed exhause and re-tuned so it has a straight pipe). Although it likes to twist the backplate on acceleration. But if you are giving it gas and then let off, it'll start turning left.
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Hey, one wheel gokarts are called mini-bikes.
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Or is a 1WD go kart a 4 wheeled minibike??? Hmmmmmmmmm.........................
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Teehee....
I'm that one weirdo whose kart doesn't want to track straight...
Granted though my axle is bent, and the steering leaves something to be desired.
The plot thickens.

Your kart's geometry is askew--that'll do it. Bad steering will do it too....different tire pressures, bad bearings, I bet the list is nearly endless.
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