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Old 04-18-2014, 08:23 AM
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Arrow 2014 - Hotwinged

hello fellow followers...

I thought I might join this year just for the heck of it...

having that ugly & long Manco 715 ... why not shoot for the stars?

I waited a few more days for even more parts to arrive, to at least have a nice pile of parts,
now I still don't...
it'll take another week until the next batch arrives I assume;
so let's just start anyways.

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oh and the engine (you know what a clone looks like don't you?)
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PS yes.. the sign was made for the date of expected delivery... shirt happens
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I like the sign more than your kart (for now)! If you put the same attention to detail in your kart, its going to be awesome!
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hehe attention to detail .. I doubt it, but I'll try
I'll try with nothing but doodles and nearly no exact measurements

At least that's the plan;
let's see where I end up with that

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you been hacking my tablet? I was toying with the idea of doing a make over with my 715...... what do you have in mind for a build on this longer than church service on a hot day chassis? I only see one way to go with it...but if it's the same thing you're thinking, I'll stick to my original plan and maybe do a trike.....
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Not necessarily. ....the mods keep deleting pics of my small parts........something about this being a family friendly forum or some such rubish.......

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you been hacking my tablet? I was toying with the idea of doing a make over with my 715...... what do you have in mind for a build on this longer than church service on a hot day chassis? I only see one way to go with it...but if it's the same thing you're thinking, I'll stick to my original plan and maybe do a trike.....
Well... look closely and you'll find a hint

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Not necessarily. ....the mods keep deleting pics of my small parts........something about this being a family friendly forum or some such rubish.......
yeah well.. OR...


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Hey... Glad you threw your hat in the ring, Alex! Best of luck to you, and happy building!
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.... for some reason... I read the title... and started seeing that lil redhead boy on your avatar... eating chicken wings(bar-b-que)... driving a kart down the road... ya need to work on your post titles sid!...lol Now Im craving hotwings!!! grrr and Im at work till 1am! grrr
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.... for some reason... I read the title... and started seeing that lil redhead boy on your avatar... eating chicken wings(bar-b-que)... driving a kart down the road... ya need to work on your post titles sid!...lol Now Im craving hotwings!!! grrr and Im at work till 1am! grrr
Hehe...
For now this is all (not too) hidden clues

Okay let's start at the beginning..
I had exactly no idea where I wanted to go with the kart,
so I browsed my container of mediocre odds and found one of those red light 'scanners', you know the walking light thingy.

So I thought maybe some K.I.T.T -alike kart would be nice...
shopping time
but being at the hardwarestore I found that white rattle cans are much cheaper than black ones
(well, black wasn't available from that no name brand)
So I got white... *shrugs* and tossed the Knight Rider idea.

Back home I reopened said container and found a white Corgi Toy .. white...
yeah some 'important' question can be really easy to answer in the end

Diecast toy ...
like hotwheels... but with wings...
hotwings ... a bit of passwordisation...
hotwinged... done!

Funny thing: the TV show was also by Glen A Larson,
and as bad as Knight Rider (loved it as a child!)

And a few doodles later the plan was set.
and the main parts have been ordered
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Alex, you artistic types never cease to amaze me... Back before CAD took over the world, I was a pretty fair draftsman; I could never produce a "Doodle" that could ever come close to the things that just seem to fall off the pencil's of yourself and Kelly (as well as probably at least several others here).

I guess I'm just going to have to stick with what I know how to do (although, machining propellers for some pretty high end world renowned Yacht builders can be pretty interesting too...)....
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Well I will have to read the rules and see if my idea will pass as a "build". My idea was no where in that neighborhood, so I guess I will see about makin my vision a reality....
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Alex, you artistic types never cease to amaze me... Back before CAD took over the world, I was a pretty fair draftsman; I could never produce a "Doodle" that could ever come close to the things that just seem to fall off the pencil's of yourself and Kelly (as well as probably at least several others here).
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Well Pat...

My ovals are nowhere near ideal, my straights are never sraight and to ogive nose cone.. is just plain awful...
The magic is: I don't mind
As long as the proportions are about right I'm okay with it

If you think of it as drafting without a ruler, you'll see that it's actually pretty easy to do.
just spend a minute a day doodling and you'll end up with convincing doodles in about a month

I know you could do the same if you'd try a few times;
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Sooooo, are you making an airplane kart? You gonna have wings? Hmmmm, I'll be watching this one for sure.....
(you never know what this dude is capable of..... Dam Germans..... LoL )
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Sooooo, are you making an airplane kart? You gonna have wings? Hmmmm, I'll be watching this one for sure.....
(you never know what this dude is capable of..... Dam Germans..... LoL )
airplane... pfft
SPACESHIP!

And so it begins...
Ordered some air ducts..
2x 1m 150mm
1x 1m 125mm
1x 0.5m 100mm
and adaptors
2x 150-125
2x 125-100
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cut the two smaller pipes in half and here's the first RL mock up of the rockets...
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all unglued, nothings straightened,
the nose cones are missing (will have to make my own I'm afraid)
But you should get the idea


Also I took my rear wheels and startet the general restoration of the base kart
The B4
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it'll take a while untill they're ready to be painted..
but that alone helped alot

Unfortunately I'm missing the left spacer, so I will have to make one.
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But that's going to be a different days task

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PS please keep your fingers crossed,
I might have found a complete Manco rear wheel assembly in germany that I can get.
I'll know tomorrow
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Ahhhh..... An airplane for space travels..... I see...... LoL reminds me of the x-wing fighters from starwars......
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Ahhhh..... An airplane for space travels..... I see...... LoL reminds me of the x-wing fighters from starwars......
Nooo travels.. isse combat

And not too far from at least some star wars vehicles, true
(okay.. who builds a millenium falcon kart )

But this is the Buck Rogers Star-(or Thunder) fighter
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Sooo

after a few more cleaning passes with fine steel wool, old toothbrushes and loads of soap..
I finally applied some white colour..
here's the first layer drying
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And while waiting to apply the second I went to a florist and got me some turbines for my rockets
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one set stacked:
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No, not convinced, so I threw out the bigger plate and got me two more smaller pots.
It started to rain.. of course!
(because my day wasn't bad enough with the broken wheel half )

Anyways, after removing the collar
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I could make the rear end a fair bit longer:
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Yup, much better now...

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[EDIT]
Well, I quickly made a nose cone..
And what should I say.. the rockets might be a bit oversized

I removed one stage to have a comparison..
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let's see..
the cone is ~50cm
the third stage 25cm (~20 visible)
each coupler is maybe 2-3cm
the second stage is 50cm again
and the first one 100cm
the thruster is roughly 35cm

That's 240-260 cm (with or without third stage) that's about 7.8-8.5 feet...

Maybe I do need more exact measurements
Ah well...

to be continued....
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umm, lets see,

Spaceship+ kart + rockets= BAD A55

maybe it will be a BAC mono with wings and rockets
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Getting that "baked on" finish in the beaming Texas sun...... If you look closely, you see the reflection of the rod in the center......
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