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Old 11-17-2017, 12:12 AM
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Just what the title says, I'm looking for the smallest tire available that is suitable for use on a small kart or mini bike. The more aggressive the tread, the better. I know of the 4.10-4 Snow Hog, and there a couple 2.50/2.80-4 tires that are only 8" tall, but they aren't very aggressive. Thanks.
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Why are you snowriding with small tires. Why not go big? They will ride alot better i the snow.
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Some quick research leads me to the conclusion that those snow hogs are the only 4" tire available with any tread aggression. Yield to 6" and Bob's your Uncle. No offense, Bob.
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Whats with the small tires? * in seems really small for a dirt kart...
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Just what the title says, I'm looking for the smallest tire available that is suitable for use on a small kart or mini bike. The more aggressive the tread, the better. I know of the 4.10-4 Snow Hog, and there a couple 2.50/2.80-4 tires that are only 8" tall, but they aren't very aggressive. Thanks.
I guess if you run a 1 hp engine, you need to run tiny tires to even attempt to turn them on ice. Good luck finding what you need. I've seem some brands that are sold by Traxxas that can kick up some mean dirt with tiny motors. I will see what I can find for you. What size kart (length), engine and drive-train, size of person to ride it please?
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This is not for snow riding, the name of one of the tires is a Carlisle Snow Hog (made for snowblowers I guess).

The reason I am asking is because I am entering the Oregon Gambler 100 in May and I want to build a bike to race in it. The Gambler is a 100 mile off-road mini bike race.... 18 5.6mi laps total. There are 2 classes, over 3hp and under 3hp, and it has to have an industrial engine with a centrifugal clutch.

I am thinking of building a tiny tom thumb style bike, but with offroad tires and seriously legit suspension..... like X Games freestyle motocross suspension, but on a 50lb bike. I want to be able to catch at least 6' of air and land smoothly on flat ground...... on a bike I can pick up and run with.
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OK great!! I think with some of us all looking, we should come up with something cool. Thanks, Scott


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carlisle-...&wl13=&veh=sem
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There are these....
Maybe saves an inch.
Why do you need it so small? Just to keep the swing arm small and the weight down?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dirt-Tire-3...wAAOSwKtVWy4u-

Dirt Tire 300 x 4 for Gas G Scooter Go Kart Pocket Bike Mini Chopper On/Off Road


"Fits many applications
9x3.5-4 (300x4) Dirt Tire for Gas Scooter, Electric Scooter, Go Kart, Pocket Bike, Mini Choppers, Motorcycle
This tire fits a 4 inch rim and is 10 inches tall
Dual purpose street ad off road tire
Comes with 30 day warranty"
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Or this?
Look for knobby tires for stand up gas scooters.
BTW... Specs for the scooter in the picture say
"Scooter In Box Weight: 83 lbs."


3.00-4 Knobby Gas Scooter ATV Go Kart Tire fits 4 inch Wheel Rim 300x4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-00-4-Knob...-/272607898096
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Some quick research leads me to the conclusion that those snow hogs are the only 4" tire available with any tread aggression. Yield to 6" and Bob's your Uncle. No offense, Bob.
I wouldn't have taken offense if you spent more time on your research. LOL
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There are these....
Maybe saves an inch.
Why do you need it so small? Just to keep the swing arm small and the weight down?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dirt-Tire-3...wAAOSwKtVWy4u-

Dirt Tire 300 x 4 for Gas G Scooter Go Kart Pocket Bike Mini Chopper On/Off Road


"Fits many applications
9x3.5-4 (300x4) Dirt Tire for Gas Scooter, Electric Scooter, Go Kart, Pocket Bike, Mini Choppers, Motorcycle
This tire fits a 4 inch rim and is 10 inches tall
Dual purpose street ad off road tire
Comes with 30 day warranty"
Looks like a snow hog or copy thereof.
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Looks like a snow hog or copy thereof.
It does. I thought the same thing.
But the other one is different.
And I think the 3.00-4 tires are an inch smaller than the 4.10-3.50-4????
Scooter Tires, Hand Truck Tires, Lawnmower Tires, Go Kart Tires, Car Tires,.... The sizes still confuse me sometimes. Does 300 mean 300mm or 3.00 inches. Sometimes it can mean either. We need a standardized tire dimension across all tires. Or at least use units for crying out loud.
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I want to be able to catch at least 6' of air and land smoothly on flat ground...... on a bike I can pick up and run with.
Is that in feet or inches?if your only jumping 6 inches probably don't need crazy suspension... if ya do decide you jumping 6 feet Good luck with that...
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Is that in feet or inches?if your only jumping 6 inches probably don't need crazy suspension... if ya do decide you jumping 6 feet Good luck with that...

Especially with little bitty tires...

6' is a LOT of air, and even in a full suspension buggy, that would be a HARD landing on flat ground, much less a mini bike.
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Oh geeeee, looky what I found..........You're welcome............

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carlisle-...ype=10&veh=aff
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Thanks Bob, that mini snow hog is exactly like what I am looking for.
The small size is to be as compact and light as possible, like maybe it could have a shoulder strap for carrying.


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Is that in feet or inches?if your only jumping 6 inches probably don't need crazy suspension... if ya do decide you jumping 6 feet Good luck with that...
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Especially with little bitty tires...

6' is a LOT of air, and even in a full suspension buggy, that would be a HARD landing on flat ground, much less a mini bike.
Yea, I was exaggerating a little with 6 feet, but I can seriously get a foot of suspension travel with the design I'm considering. Check out forkless bikes..... I could do that with "inboard" mounted shocks. It is basically like dirt bike rear suspension on the front and back..
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Nice! I've never heard of that event before. I'll have to check it out sometime. Are you from Oregon like me?
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I live in Oregon so we’re is this gambler gonna take place at?
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. I know of the 4.10-4 Snow Hog.


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OK great!! I think with some of us all looking, we should come up with something cool. Thanks, Scott


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carlisle-...&wl13=&veh=sem


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Oh geeeee, looky what I found..........You're welcome............

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carlisle-...ype=10&veh=aff
You’ve linked the same tires the OP mentioned in the Original Post. Twice. The same ones he said were larger than he wanted.

You’re welcome.
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You’ve linked the same tires the OP mentioned in the Original Post. Twice. The same ones he said were larger than he wanted.

You’re welcome.
Oh, I am sorry sorry......... I musta missed that part......
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