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Old 03-20-2020, 05:22 PM
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What all would I have to do to put a snorkel on a Predator 212??
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Old 03-20-2020, 05:25 PM
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Off hand... Piece of plastic pipe, some elbows, an end cap for the carb..

Whats this for...
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If you got a cone air filter adapter, a fernco boot (those rubber fittings with the hose clamps for drain pipe repair), some PVC pipe and fittings, attach it to your carb and put the cone filter on the pipe.

Just FYI unless you waterproof your ignition system, the engine won't run under water, and if you do, the cooling fan on the flywheel will eat up most of your power pumping water.
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If you got a cone air filter adapter, a fernco boot (those rubber fittings with the hose clamps for drain pipe repair), some PVC pipe and fittings, attach it to your carb and put the cone filter on the pipe.

Just FYI unless you waterproof your ignition system, the engine won't run under water, and if you do, the cooling fan on the flywheel will eat up most of your power pumping water.
And on top of that, the bowl vent for the carburetor would have to be tied into the snorkel or it would get water in the carb.
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How would i waterproof the ignition system?? And its a surprise what its for.
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The motor isnt sealed and isnt meant to...So you would need to make an enclosure to separate it from the water, but have breathing air for it to function and the motor itself to breath and cool...
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Red Beard's Garage on YouTube tried a snorkel on their kart, and it ran terribly. My advice is to not do it.
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air cooled predator engine under water.........lol. I honestly doubt it would run unless hitting water full speed and skimming which you eont do with a predator 212 so we are back to square 1. why
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How would i waterproof the ignition system?? And its a surprise what its for.
The best way is to not try to run your engine underwater.
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if the engine is under water for most of the ride the water could cool it off and an air cooled engine that is run for like 5 mins with out the fin on the flywheel would be fine I think.
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Build break repeat did it on YouTube

https://youtu.be/vb69PT60Emw

Theirs is a 420, but principle is the same. They test it in a later video I have not seen
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I know the Briggs and Startton Model 19 305cc engine that is used in Baja SAE, has a snorkel kit available for that. I'm not sure if you could get one and modify it for a Predator, but stuff does exist. But it's mostly just to make sure water from say a foot deep puddle doesn't fly up into the airbox and flood it out. It's part number 792349, but it has been superseded by 592251.
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Has anyone of you guy thought about dirt ingress? You all seem to be stuck on water.

Out here in the desert I have my dingo with a k&n style air filter and I have to oil and clean it constantly. It hangs out just over the tire and sucks dust.

I've been contemplating a snorkel myself. Perhaps run a tube up behind the top of the seat. Somewhere that's getting cleaner air.


And the OP still hasn't given updates......
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Couple pictures of the Briggs snorkel kit.
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