honda clone bore

[Swabbster]

do the honda clones have a cast iron sleeve like the real honda engines? here in canada we get the brand ducar, in the states they have lifan and predator, i know the predator engines have a cast iron sleeve but im not sure if the other honda clones do,

[Blazkowiez]

Each one I have seen has. I'm not sure if they vary much.

[toystory_4wd]

Don't forget the Powerfist from Princess Auto! I honestly don't know if they are sleeved. I did the governorectomy, but did not look for this...

[Swabbster]

Originally Posted by Blazkowiez

Each one I have seen has. I'm not sure if they vary much.

they have cast iron sleeves? or they don't,

[Swabbster]

Originally Posted by toystory_4wd

Don't forget the Powerfist from Princess Auto! I honestly don't know if they are sleeved. I did the governorectomy, but did not look for this...

ya i have the power fist engines, i removed my governor on one and did not check, i don't want to tear in a break my gasket, one of these days, i have a big roll of gasket paper from Canadian tire so no worries

[mckutzy]

Equally speaking, Does any one know if the Champion brand yellow clones have a iron sleeve?
Iam currently running one on my chopper and am also interested to know.

[toystory_4wd]

They likely do. Champion is one of the best clones available, from everything I have heard (or at least in Canada). You probably noticed that they are priced higher. According to the company, they are built overseas but to North American quality standards.

EDIT- Yes they do have a cast iron cylinder sleeve- I just visited the manufacturer's website. http://www.championpowerequipment.com/engines/66504/

EDIT, FWIW-
"Champion Power Equipment is a US owned and operated company with manufacturing facilities in China. We stand head and shoulders above our competitors by our commitment to quality throughout the engineering, quality assurance, manufacturing and customer service processes. Champion Power Equipment -
10006 Santa Fe Springs Road
Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670 USA "

[r_chez_08]

Yeah all clones as far as I know have a cast iron liner. Otherwise they wouldn't be a clone They would also require different pistons and rings (chromed or something like the briggs kool bore)
The champions are really good quality. They use a different, better rocker system- a 1:1 shaft mounted system. Great motor.
Check these vids-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkewaeByl8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDo4ViD5Hc

[mckutzy]

Cool, I am glad, cause I spent good money on it. about $160CAD total.
It seemed well built and I havent had any problems with it. A few years ago, when I first started it, it fired up right away on the first pull.

Interesting vids by them aswell, just visited there channel.

[Swabbster]

i pulled my princess auto power fist engine apart to check and it does have a cast iron sleeve! great buy for 89 bucks

[RATO Norm]

In Canada, the Canadian Tire offers the RATO engines. They are from the same factory as the Predator engines and offer cast iron sleeves.

[toystory_4wd]

No kidding? What province? I have never seen an industrial engine for sale at CTC unless it was attached to an implement.

[Swabbster]

here toystory http://www.canadiantire.ca/search/se...08474396672395

[gvfc2]

im just wondering. i dont know much about engines yet. what is the purpose of the cast iron sleeve?

[Russ2251]

Lasts longer.

[toystory_4wd]

Originally Posted by Swabbster

here toystory http://www.canadiantire.ca/search/se...08474396672395

Wow. That's a new one on me! I shop at Canadian Tire regularly, and have never seen OPE replacement engines on the shelf. Maybe they don't display them.

FWIW- If I'm going to spend that much on a clone, I'm going to go to TSC (Tractor Supply) and get a Champion. I have no idea if Rato is any good as par as clones go...