Sparkly Oil?

[ineed2fly]

I finally put the gasket on my crankcase and when I opened it up the oil was sparkly....like bits of metal in it. It is a 5.5 HP B+S. Is this part of the normal break in cycle? What is the reccomended break in method for a B+S? I was thinking just let it run thorough a tank of gas on idle.

Thanks,
Nick

[jr dragster Tyler]

well since you do fly airplanes Maybe "glow fuel" or nitro you should be fairley familier with break in procedures normally you just run normall oil in it and vary the rpms every so often for a few tanks then run synthetic if you want. But if the engine is used then why need to break it in? I am assuming its used because your putting a new sidecover gasket on it.

[kibble]

I guess if the oil was never changed since it was new then that may be the reason why. If the oil had been changed since then, you shouldn't have sparkly oil, you may have another problem.

[ironman]

I like sparkers they are pretty:sifone:

[robertdjung]

metal in the oil is bad. does the engine still run?

[ineed2fly]

It was an engine from a tech class that is new, but the lost the gasket. Actually I don't fly *sob* (saving for PG now though) I do fly kites! Does that count? I am putting new oil in so as not to put metal bits back in but this is the first oil change but it has only run for less than an hour. But my friend said "it looks like break in oil" (cloudy gross oil) The engine does still run. However when we cracked it open the timing was off so that might have something to do with it, its fixed now though. I guess we'll see what happens. Should I just let it idle through a 1/2 tank?

[kibble]

I think you said a key point: "new engine". That could explain it.

[ineed2fly]

K so engine just stopped working, like ran fine, ran fine, ran fine, then stopped reving high and now when you start it, to even get an attempt at starting it needs to be on full throttle and it just makes sounds like a backfire 3 or 4 times and wont run.

I think I mite be screwed, I don't have the $ to buy an engine.

[jr dragster Tyler]

Is the timing off again?

[ineed2fly]

I don't think so, we lined it up, but i dont want to check cuz then I need to redo my gasket.

[Russ2251]

I think I mite be screwedYup....sounds like it...
I was thinking just let it run thorough a tank of gas on idle.This is a common but bad idea.
Letting it idle for long periods will screw around with how new parts 'wear in'. Some engine manuals call for a break-in period while others (most) do not and usually just amounts to making an early 1st oil change.
Most of the new push mowers run at 3600 rpms out of the box with no throttle control and will never idle during their lifetimes.
Best way to break-in is to run it in it's full throttle range and normal governed state for at least a few hours unless manual says otherwise. On-line manuals can be found at http://www.briggsandstratton.com/

[jr dragster Tyler]

That's what I was going to say, you have to wear in the parts to the rpm it will be normally used at sort of

[ineed2fly]

Problem solved. I think the bore is OK because the engine isn't smoking so no oil is getting past the piston rings. I was trying to get it running and I heard a rattling under my valve cover. So I pulled it off, and the exhaust valve+nut had come completely off. Tightened it, gapped it, and it runs great!

[kibble]

Amazing what a nut can do.

[Russ2251]

Could have been much worse....you lucked out my friend.:thumbsup:

[ineed2fly]

For seriously! I just need to remember to take a ratchet set, allen wrench, cresent wrench, and spark plug gapper with me everytime I go, and keep it on the kart. Next to the little fire extingquisher, yes a fire extinguisher. IT LOOKS SO BA!!!! Mounted on the roll cage right were it should be. Is anyone else thinking sound system? :sifone:

[my_mini_bike]

metal in the oil is bad. does the engine still run?

lol oil + metal = bad

[ineed2fly]

Being that the engine didn't smoke I think it is just wearing the cylender down from a very tight factory fit. If the engine started to smoke I would be concerned. I will probaby put some restore inside though.

[kibble]

Just be glad you didn't bust a nut.

What is restore?

[ineed2fly]

You put it in the oil and it fills scratches in the cylinder. Helps increase compression. Would it be better to run a better fuel than regular unleaded? Should I use unleaded premium? I've heard it doesn't make a difference at our altitude. (5280)

[kibble]

It probably wouldn't make much difference anyway because these small engines aren't high compression engines.

[oscaryu1]

Being that the engine didn't smoke I think it is just wearing the cylender down from a very tight factory fit. If the engine started to smoke I would be concerned. I will probaby put some restore inside though.

You should be concerned about your rings eating your block...

[oscaryu1]

It probably wouldn't make much difference anyway because these small engines aren't high compression engines.

It won't. Restore with CSL is made for car uses. Not for small engines... Small engines can have anywhere from 1/3 to 1/5 of a cars comprssion... (Around 200PSI)

[Dynoracecams]

Its prabably just the valve seting it will cause metle flake to drop out in the oil.

[2or3wheels]

just chekc oil often and chage again in 10 or so hours.

[oscaryu1]

just chekc oil often and chage again in 10 or so hours.

That would make no difference if it was a internal problem...

You should never have sparkly oil... or oil with visible metal bits. If it does, then somethings been grindin down in there...

[2or3wheels]

i was going on the assumption it was a new motor and it it being broken in.

[oscaryu1]

When you break a engine, it shouldn't grind itself to pieces during the process.