must see... stupid go kart !!!

[lemegacool]

hi
thi is my last creation...

the frame is a shopping cart, the engine a honda gx160 5.5hp with a 12 tooth clutch and linked by a no:35 chain to a 72 tooth sprocket. you can see a tractor exaust with cap a aluminium rear spoiler, mirrors and wings around the rear wheels. the brake is disc type ( it locks the rear wheel when pressed fully) . the spindles are homemade and work great. the rear wheels are bearing wheels that i converted to live axle wheels by welding 2 shaft collar to thems (see picture). you can see in one of the picture my homemade keyways, one for the disc brake and one for the drive sprocket. te front bumper is REALLY solid (i tested it by bumping it into our forklift ;) ) . in two pictures you can see how i linked the throttle cable to the honda engine (i had to tig-weld the little grooved rod to the throttle assy) and it works perfectly ! i think it's top speed is around 40 km/h (scary fast in a shopping cart)

i will try to post a video on youtube soon

enjoy!

[crazycart]

Lmao nice job that things bada$$

[lemegacool]

no the total cost is 300.00$$$ the engine was given to me 6 years ago (it was not working but i repaired it) and i bought the other parts from princess auto and i took the metal from the scrap bins at the shop ;)

[jr dragster Tyler]

:cheers2: Nice kart Im sure getting the shopping kart was 100% legal lol;) Did you get the keystock at princes auto? Cause I did and it was REALY sloppy

[kibble]

:cheers2: Nice kart Im sure getting the shopping kart was 100% legal lol;)

LOL I was thinking the same thing! :iagree:

Dude, ever since I saw one of those shopping karts a while ago I have wanted to make one :drool5:. Yours came out looking pretty nice! I envy you and your apparent endless availability of machinery in the background! LOL :thumbsup:

[lemegacool]

the shopping cart was laying around in the shop since 4 months so... i took it and:auto: and yes i took the keystock at princess auto and did not have problem with

[jr dragster Tyler]

ohh ok hmm it must have walked to the shop:arf:

[kibble]

Awww man, I hate it when uninvited items walk into my garage! :ninja:

What is the seat made of? It looks like a piece of cardboard, or foam.

[lemegacool]

i hate theses things walking in my shop too but i deal with it :idea2: the seat is made of special foam made for seats (very confortable)

[2or3wheels]

that thing is sweet.

[JerryAssburger]

That looks fun! I'm waiting for someone to do this to "The Most Comfortable Seat In The House" ..... a toilet! Hah!

[kibble]

I think someone has already done that. I vaguely remember seeing a vehicle that had a toilet as a seat. I don't remember where I saw it though.

Oh Man!!!! I just did a quick search on google and found this:
http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52

Scroll down and you'll see it. They got some other interesting stuff on there.

[athif]

all you gotta do is put 25 cents into the slot and the cart is yours :thumbsup:

[Roy Vanas]

i hooked a minni bike tripple tree to the back of a shoping cart with 20 in. bike tires & forks welded to the side....it was like pushing a trailor, every time i turned it wanted to jackknife! The next one will have a vertical shaft 12 volt electric start push mower engine with a pully tention clutch to a 3 speed w/ reverse differential axil & its tires(off old rider mower) all UNDER the basket!360 caster dollywheels in front with a single piviting drag wheel w/ seat to pull behind it ...id like to keep my basket so i can use it to pick up cans to pay for gas on my way to & from the beach!
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/waistofhumanspace/stupidstuff/ghettoshopcart.jpg

[Kenny_McCormic]

all you gotta do is put 25 cents into the slot and the cart is yours :thumbsup:

Only one the badder side of town, walmart gives em away for free.

[Roy Vanas]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/waistofhumanspace/stupidstuff/th_MINIBIKESHOPINGCART.jpg (http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/waistofhumanspace/stupidstuff/MINIBIKESHOPINGCART.jpg)
This was too dificult to drive so i cut it up & turned it into other things

[thefastenuff]

New meaning to the term "Grocery Getter!"

[lemegacool]

neecro!

oh god i just remembered i had an account here! lol ... airsoft so addicting... lol anyway i'm currently turbocharging the shopping cart! lol i got a near new eagle talon turbo to put on it, i'll hook it in a draw through setup... i'll try to remember to post pics! lol


sorry i know i'm late but here is the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x3rD_rXwMg&feature=channel_page

[THE HUNTER]

That, sir. is totally awesome!!!

you should try to drive it into a grocery store just to see what they say! lol

[brendonv]

thats awesome, goes good and very well built.

[Scorch3]

That thing is awesome. I like the wing it matches the engine.

[lemegacool]

thanks for the comments!!! got nearly all my parts needed to turbocharge this bad boy! lol i will be running 8psi of boost on a stock honda 5.5 block, do you think it will hold up... well time will tell us lol

[EagleTalons]

I think the flywheel will fly off like a flying saucer. Other than that That is a pretty nice looking cart!

[lemegacool]

I think the flywheel will fly off like a flying saucer. Other than that That is a pretty nice looking cart!

that would be funny to see, hehe the turbo is actually a eagle talon turbo! dont worry i'll install a boost controller to try with lower pressures a first!

[Scorch3]

if you get it to spool something funny will happen i'm sure.

[lemegacool]

i'll be sure to take little pics and vids for your viewing pleasure! and if it fails i want that on video!!! :sifone:

[lemegacool]

well i hooked up the turbo today (just the esaust side) and after a quick dry test (no oil) i wasnt very surprised. i hope that with an oil pressure on the bushing i will get more spool up than that... or it's gonna be seriously non-efffective! lol tool me 6 hours to hook that sucker up (including the time to make a custom muffler) will post pics tomorrow

[theo]

Your turbo is to big, its' designed for a larger engine and you haven't got enough exhaust pressure to spin it fast enough.

theo

[lemegacool]

yeah i know but it was free so... it gonna be more for estetics, the cart looks freakin badass with the turbo and custom muffler!

[lemegacool]

here are the pics! http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0179.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0180.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0181.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0182.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0183.jpg

[SpyGuy]

Y'all are nuts .............. good work, though. Make sure the frame is really reinforced to handle all the weight and (hopefully) extra power - be VERY disasterous to have something break while you're running ....

[lemegacool]

lol dont worry i crashed it twice and nothing failed! the first time i was in a trail and my steering disconnected (reinforced it since) so the cart steered right in a big bump lol i kinda flew in the air then crashed the cart on the side, second time i was doing some heavy drifting and the cart crashed on it's side, thats is why i always wear a full-face! lol

[Kenny_McCormic]

Where is the oil supply for the turbo? Why is it not hooked up to the engine?

Keep in mind that you will need to pressurize your gas tank and carb bowl if you do a blow though setup. I would get a mikuni for cheap off a dirt bike/sled and set it up so the turbo sucks mix out of the carb and blows it in the motor.

[lemegacool]

i said earlyer in this thread that i would run it in a draw through setup, why the oil lines and compressor not hooked! well i got other things to do with my life than turboing a shopping cart!;) dont worry i only ran the turbo dry for like 15 seconds it did not even got hot...

[lemegacool]

good idea for the mikuni carb... would be easier to hook up the throttle, any minimal bore size? was looking at his one http://cgi.ebay.ca/Carburetor-Dirt-Pit-Bike-ATV-Honda-MIKUNI-Carb-30mm_W0QQitemZ220284188066QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor cycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item220284188066&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

[Kenny_McCormic]

I would say 30mm MINIMUM, How big is the intake on that blower? I would get something clamp on with a close diameter to the turbo, that way you just need a rubber hose and 2 clamps to hold it on.

how about this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-44mm-Mikuni-carb-plus-650Waverunner-SuperJet-LX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ56422QQihZ006QQitemZ 160329634383QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
No messing with jets, screw adjusted.

Does that turbo have a built in oil pump? I would recommend keeping the turbo oil separate from the engine.

[lemegacool]

I would say 30mm MINIMUM, How big is the intake on that blower? I would get something clamp on with a close diameter to the turbo, that way you just need a rubber hose and 2 clamps to hold it on.

how about this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-44mm-Mikuni-carb-plus-650Waverunner-SuperJet-LX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ56422QQihZ006QQitemZ 160329634383QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
No messing with jets, screw adjusted.

Does that turbo have a built in oil pump? I would recommend keeping the turbo oil separate from the engine.

bidding ended :( 41.28mm intake (you was straight in lol) so i'll look for something around that size... no the turbo does not have a built-in oil pump, i was planning on running the oil pump off the engine but i see where youre going with this... trying to keep the load off the engine... other option is a 12v pump to circulate the oil, do you have any suggestion that are not costing an arm! because i have one of those shurflo 8000-643-236 that handle hot oil for my turbojet engine and it runned me out of 130$ here in canada, basically i dont run the cart more than 1 hour per week so i dont need a ultra-super-duper-über pump, just something that can handle oil (slightly hot) and provide a little pressure like 20psi, i was thinking about theses thing : http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-DRILL-PUMP-WATER-COOLANT-FUEL-OIL-660-GPH_W0QQitemZ330325289621QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Automotive_Tools?hash=item330325289621&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

any suggestions?

edit: found this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380118982476&_trksid=p2759.l1259 looks like it would be perfect!

[Kenny_McCormic]

Looks like a good carb.

Perhaps you could get a power steering pump and an old oil cooler for cheap at the junkyard? That will handle hot oil great.

[lemegacool]

yeah i think i should go to a junkyard and look around, thanks for your help!

[Orange Krate]

That's the perfect swap meet cruiser! You could probably even get it into the meets where "motorized" carts aren't allowed.

[lemegacool]

UPDATE!

here's what the carby assy will look like

need to fabricate two flanges to connect the turbo's outlet to the intake and to rig the oil pump/tank under the turbo... stay tuned :arf:

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0214.jpg

[jr dragster Tyler]

Nice filter and carb. Is that those 75 mm inlet like $20 air filters? If it is those things are junk for filtering air. Even on my dragster its more just to get rocks and gritty water from flying into my carb venturi off the tires.

[lemegacool]

Nice filter and carb. Is that those 75 mm inlet like $20 air filters? If it is those things are junk for filtering air. Even on my dragster its more just to get rocks and gritty water from flying into my carb venturi off the tires.

yep it's a 20$ filter... like you said it's more for keeping big objects out... and mostly for the look.. i nearly never ride the cart exept to go get the mail (400m ride)... lol

[lemegacool]

UPDATE AND FAIL REPORT...

actually its the brake caliper that failed... the turbo is now oiled! the only thing left to do to actually try the new setup is to link the compressors outlet to the intake... and plug the gas line

here are some pic... you can see the snapped brake...*SIGH!* i now have to buy another caliper... i think i'll go hydraulic this time...

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG_7465.jpg
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[Rotore]

nice turbo what is it a t25?

[lemegacool]

nice turbo what is it a t25?

eagle talon turbo

[Rotore]

eagle talon as in the car? if so tehn its a small 14g

[maximumbob]

It's a 13g off of a 1g automatic eclipse/talon. For the record the 14b flows more than the t25 that came on 2g dsm's. The 13g was the smallest offered on a DSM hence most likely to spool on this engine. Good luck on the project.

[jr dragster Tyler]

Nice work so far. But couldnt you have taken the turbo piping off the engine to paint to avoid all that overspray?

[lemegacool]

Nice work so far. But couldnt you have taken the turbo piping off the engine to paint to avoid all that overspray?

no! ... lol... i was in a hurry mosquitoes was literally eating me up...aaaaaaand i dont care!

[Rotore]

It's a 13g off of a 1g automatic eclipse/talon. For the record the 14b flows more than the t25 that came on 2g dsm's. The 13g was the smallest offered on a DSM hence most likely to spool on this engine. Good luck on the project.

for the record i said 14g not for 14b. either im not that familiar with mitsubishi turbines anyway so thanks for the correction.

[mike75925]

nice job, however i wouldn't get too crazy in it. too top heavy!

[mike75925]

you are going to have alot of atomized fuel in your intake runner. thank god the turbo uses air and brass/bronze for seals and bearings!

[Scorch3]

You should finish this, and tape the result. I kind of want to see what happens.

[lemegacool]

lol this is what should probably happen: ok time to start it, *many pulls of starter later* wtF@\!@#$#$%$$ WHY WONT YOU START! lol

[mattlepperd]

Just keep wrenching on it. Looks like you are having a blast and learning a ton...thats what its all about.

[lemegacool]

Just keep wrenching on it. Looks like you are having a blast and learning a ton...thats what its all about.

thanks for the comment!

[THE HUNTER]

i wanna see it working too!!

[jr dragster Tyler]

How did you keep the love-joy coupler on the clutch bolt?

[lemegacool]

How did you keep the love-joy coupler on the clutch bolt?

simple... take the bolt, cut the head (that leaves you with a stud) then take a 1/2 drill bit and bore something like 3/8 deep into the coupling, tighten set screw and tack weld the stud to the coupling from the inside. that makes you a "bolt-coupling combol" lol

[mattlepperd]

I was thinking about your turbo this morning...You need to speed up the exhaust gasses because you do not have enough volume. What if you were to build up the walls inside the exhaust side of the turbo with JB weld? Sort of the opposite of porting? shrinking the exhaust between motor and turbo in diameter speeds up the flow. Now you need to wrap that pipe between the turbo and the engine so it does not lose heat. Hot air flows faster.
I have turbo'd cars and such but the stuff I turbo usually has at least 383 cubic inches...I think you could get that to work (and by "work" I mean spool up and sound neat) but you might have to go on the noisy side of the 3600 redline to get there.

[jr dragster Tyler]

JB weld will never hold up to the heat of exhaust gas's in internal combustion engines exceeding 1300F. What was it JB melts at in the other thread? was it 450F?

[88s10Durango]

Looking , so what oil pump did you end up getting ? You mounting the oil tank up high for gravity feed somewhat or low for primeer pumping ? I looked at the Drill Pumps and there are quite a few different ones ,,Bill

[lemegacool]

Looking , so what oil pump did you end up getting ? You mounting the oil tank up high for gravity feed somewhat or low for primeer pumping ? I looked at the Drill Pumps and there are quite a few different ones ,,Bill

look at the previous page pics are there! i dont have the choice to put the tank elsewhere than under the turbo to freely catch "used" oil

and for the wall building thingny... inside the "hot" side of the turbo there is a pipe that goes down and directs the exhaust gasses directly at the turbine!

now the only thing that stress me... the blue silicone coupler... will it hold atomized fuel... i dont hink heh?

[88s10Durango]

I was just reading up on my Garret Turbo I have off a 2000cc Dodge Daytona , it only requires 30 Psi oil presure , on the Drill Pumps that supply 60 Psi it was reqimended to use a feed line with a .109" thosanths orifice to bring the PSI down to 30 - 35 Psi for the Turbo , it also said that a oil tank should be lower than the Turbo for best scavenging purposes , if there is a restriction in the scavenging then the oil will back up and blow past the inner oil seals in the Turbo and enter the exhaust side of the Turbo , thought this was interesting cause my Turbo has been sitting on the shelf for years now looking for a home , lol , I`m now wondering what it would do for my 185cc Honda trike motor I`m gonna use in my Kart , lol , Bill

[lemegacool]

I was just reading up on my Garret Turbo I have off a 2000cc Dodge Daytona , it only requires 30 Psi oil presure , on the Drill Pumps that supply 60 Psi it was reqimended to use a feed line with a .109" thosanths orifice to bring the PSI down to 30 - 35 Psi for the Turbo , it also said that a oil tank should be lower than the Turbo for best scavenging purposes , if there is a restriction in the scavenging then the oil will back up and blow past the inner oil seals in the Turbo and enter the exhaust side of the Turbo , thought this was interesting cause my Turbo has been sitting on the shelf for years now looking for a home , lol , I`m now wondering what it would do for my 185cc Honda trike motor I`m gonna use in my Kart , lol , Bill

yeah i'm gonna have to put a pressure gauge and probably a bleed off valve to bring down the pressure...

you wanna turbo your honda
DO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO ITDO IT DO IT ! lol

[lemegacool]

ok guys i have a big problem! i need a hose of some sort to plug the compressor on the intake... i need someting very flexible but yet able to resist atomized fuel? i thought of 2 90deg couplers but i think seamless pipe would be better! any ideas...

i need something that can roughly do that shape

[Kenny_McCormic]

Radiator hose.

[88s10Durango]

PVC pipe with elbows ??

[lemegacool]

tough of the radiator hose, the proble is finding one that will fit...

and for pvc pipes, it can handles gas? if so i'm probably going to go with this... thanks

[EagleTalons]

tough of the radiator hose, the proble is finding one that will fit...

and for pvc pipes, it can handles gas? if so i'm probably going to go with this... thanks

PVC pipe degrades after use with gasoline, but radiator hose comes in ALL different sizes. You may need to get a truck hose, but it will work.

[mattlepperd]

Get the blue silicone radiator hose.

[572bigblock]

That, sir. is totally awesome!!!

you should try to drive it into a grocery store just to see what they say! lol


They would say, "Get out of my grocery store"

lol

[lemegacool]

well was bored this afternoon so i made the turbo's flange out of 1/8 a36 steel . looks neat!

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0225.jpg

[Kaptain Krunch]

Looks good, i see you use blue sharpie? I use purple myself...but whatever floats your boat :rolleyes3:

[EagleTalons]

I use purple too! I call it the magic cutting marker. Cause whatever gets marked gets cut! :p

[lemegacool]

the blue came from my laptop's cooling pad fans LMAO! but i use black sharpie

[maximumbob]

Looks great. What did you use to cut the center whole on the flange?

I think we are all anxiously awaiting your results.

[lemegacool]

Looks great. What did you use to cut the center whole on the flange?

I think we are all anxiously awaiting your results.

a hole saw... lol took 25mins on the lowes setting in the press drill (cheapo baby press drill lol)

yeah i just noticed that the turbo wont spool anymore probably (no... surely) due to the fact the there is approx 60 psi of oil in it ... :roflol:
awwww crap now it have to rig a pressure bleed off valve and a gauge... the more money and time i put on this thing, the more i'm thinking it will not work :furious2: oh well time will tell us;)

[Rotore]

nice work keep me posted i'm interested in the end result

[lemegacool]

got my caliper/master cyl... GOT BRAKES?

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0231.jpg
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0232.jpg

[Rotore]

i'g guessing its off a bike question is what bike?

[lemegacool]

raptor 660 atv

[Rotore]

nice

[lemegacool]

go my stuff to make the oil pressure gauge/ bypass valve assy to control oil pressure ... got ripped off by ups: see thread "i need to vent" lol

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/DIGI0233.jpg

also got a cute little air filter for the valve cover vent and also 36" of radiator hose... now i have to bend it... any suggestions? i planned on boiling it then molding it to the shape i want...:confused:

to be done:

install new brake setup
weld two flanges (one on the turbo the other on the manifold)
bend the pipe to shape
hook up gas line and throttle pedal
...
watch a buttload of money not start LMAO!

oh yeah the hardware shown in the picture costed me 96$...

[Rotore]

**** dude hope you get that thing to spool up.

BTW have you ever thought about trading your turbo for a kg31 off a smart car it would spool with our rngines nicely

[lemegacool]

**** dude hope you get that thing to spool up.

BTW have you ever thought about trading your turbo for a kg31 off a smart car it would spool with our rngines nicely

what? you have one :roflol:

[Rotore]

nope but i do have a gt20 but i'm not trading :p try ebay

[lemegacool]

just to give an update the new braking system is installed and is powerful as HELL lol , and i'm only gonna say to you that i can now hear the engine suck air though the carby , i did not put gas in it yet as i have to wait for the permatex gasket to dry... gonna try it tomorrow...

now everything in the rear is reinforced/bolted solidly! hope it works or i'll have done all this for nothing :(

[lemegacool]

the beast is alive!!!

started in 3 pulls of the crank! AWESOME! but was running way too high even with the speed screw all the way out. so i filed the copper thing in the center of the carb so the pluger can go down more. now i have a very smooth idle!!! :bannana:

BUT it has a problem... when i press the gas pedal too far it just slow down and stall... the effective range of the gas pedal is like 1/4 of its travel... methinks that the carb is too big/ too big jet thoughts!?!

anyway its still driveable you just have to learn the throttle "sweet spot"

now for the porn! (BEWARE 56K WILL AUTODESTRUCT!)

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[lemegacool]

more pics


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[lemegacool]

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[lemegacool]

aaaaaannnnd a video!

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/th_MVI_7867.jpg (http://s426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/?action=view&current=MVI_7867.flv)

[Raywelder]

Aww, I couldn't hear the turbo spooling up.

[Raywelder]

But very cool cart!

[lemegacool]

you cant hear it very well even when riding but when accelerating at a certain time you can feel a little kick it makes me giggles! lol

[jr dragster Tyler]

Can you upload to youtube pretty pretty please so I can see it? Nice kart, When you mash the gas from a dead stop does it go BLAAAA and shut off/pop threw intake?

[lemegacool]

Can you upload to youtube pretty pretty please so I can see it? Nice kart, When you mash the gas from a dead stop does it go BLAAAA and shut off/pop threw intake?

gonne upload it tomorrow its 2.24 am here lol and yes if i snap it wot it rumbles in the carb and dies, but if i gives just a little gas it takes off!

[THE HUNTER]

you gonna get a vid of you drivin it?? very nice! i wanna see it in action :D

[lemegacool]

sorry i accidently deleted the photobucket video so i cant upload it to youtube but i got theses 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg4ksZvQYmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRPVh0G4V0U&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aYQxkD3sBs&feature=channel

[Rotore]

you should put a honda emblem on it...

[EagleTalons]

How fast is that thing scooting at?

[jr dragster Tyler]

Looks pretty fast! The stalling is because your main jet is too lean. Find a numbered bit that fits the main pretty good and go up a size. Tell me your stock main jet size first though. I also noticed on the stand when your motor stalled and when you shut it off your drivetrain and wheels locks up suddenly. Howecome your wheels dont keep spinning to a slow stop?

[lemegacool]

Looks pretty fast! The stalling is because your main jet is too lean. Find a numbered bit that fits the main pretty good and go up a size. Tell me your stock main jet size first though. I also noticed on the stand when your motor stalled and when you shut it off your drivetrain and wheels locks up suddenly. Howecome your wheels dont keep spinning to a slow stop?

dont have idea of the spee but for a shopping cart its pretty fast ... would like faster though :roflol: is the main jet the copper thing in the center of the carby? so basically it it'st getting enough fuel... hehehe i like where this is going...:devil2: and yeah the brake is rubbing on the disc thats why it stopped suddently...

the first time i started it with the idle screw completely off it was running too fast, so i actually had to file down the plunger stopper so it can close more... is enlarging the main jet will cause idle problem?

[jr dragster Tyler]

The main jet is machined from Brass. Pull your carb and bowl off and get a picture. I will leed you from there.

[lemegacool]

The main jet is machined from Brass. Pull your carb and bowl off and get a picture. I will leed you from there.


okok its the little hexagonal head screw with a hole in it, so basically you want me to enlarge it right? wont that ****up my idle?

[EagleTalons]

It would be better to buy some jets to play with so you don't overbore one too badly and have to braze it and re drill it. Also for the idle the needle has a clippy on it under the spring hold down. You can raise or lower the needle for more or less fuel.

[jr dragster Tyler]

The main jet only controls your 3/4-WOT throttle fuel.

[lemegacool]

okok thanks! i'm laerning very fast on carbs here! thanks guys yeah i though of buying more jets but i'll just go a size up and see if i fuct it up i'll just braze it at work

[lemegacool]

i drilled the jet with a 1/16 bit... made and improvement but still stalls if i floor it...

[EagleTalons]

Have you thought of using a restriction plate?

[lemegacool]

Have you thought of using a restriction plate?

you mean restricting the airflow? i should just have bought a smaller carb then...

[EagleTalons]

They are at the bottom of the page.

http://www.arcracing.com/servlet/the-HP-Engine-Parts-%26-Accessories/searchpath/3829/start/19/total/33/Categories

[lemegacool]

okok well i'll see probably gonna play with some homemade ones ... lol

[kitcarguy]

WOW,

What a fun machine that much be

[lemegacool]

WOW,

What a fun machine that much be

indeed LOL:roflol: :D

[lemegacool]

**** dude hope you get that thing to spool up.

BTW have you ever thought about trading your turbo for a kg31 off a smart car it would spool with our rngines nicely

took your advice an bidded on a kkk kp31 off a smart...! i hope to win it cheap... NOW THE ****ER IS GONNA SPOOL...

i'm thinking about reducing the carb's size... effin too big for that engine...

[lemegacool]

won the smart turbo for 101$ shipped... weee! i will re-do the oil pump setup as the drill pump is currently spraying oil by the shaft at 20 psi LOL will probably also re-do the oil tank and header... i got two nice brass procon rotary vanes pumps in here but they spin the other way than the engine ****! i would have liked to use them like the old setup...(lovejoy coupler)

i'll keep you guys updated!;)

[jr dragster Tyler]

You know, I was thinking if you put a restrictor plate after the carb it might help the turbo spool up faster.

[EagleTalons]

You know, I was thinking if you put a restrictor plate after the carb it might help the turbo spool up faster.

I said that haha!

[jr dragster Tyler]

Lol, You never said where to put the restrictor plate!

[lemegacool]

lol... anyway ... i'm getting a tiny super cute turbo! lol

[lemegacool]

thanks! and its not even finished! its never finished... lol

[Rotore]

You know, I was thinking if you put a restrictor plate after the carb it might help the turbo spool up faster.

sorry but this has me interested tyler how exactly would that work if you dont mind me asking?

[freakboy]

Adds more pressure.

[Rotore]

Adds more pressure.

i kno im just interested to know how but never mind i'll figure it out after a couple drinks

[jr dragster Tyler]

I was thinking it would make a bit more vacuum on the intake side and maybe spool the turbo faster?

[freakboy]

lol a few more drinks makes anyone think better!! how half the **** my freinds come up with work.

[EagleTalons]

I was thinking it would make a bit more vacuum on the intake side and maybe spool the turbo faster?

Adds more velocity.

[sideways]

absolutly freaking awesome project mate :thumbsup: but you should stay away from slide carbys if you can because when theres a turbo atached to them they can sometimes suck open leaving you stuck on full throtle which will lead to girly sreams :roflol: and an expensive sounding clunk from your engine :mad2:

Hayden

[Kaptain Krunch]

absolutly freaking awesome project mate :thumbsup: but you should stay away from slide carbys if you can because when theres a turbo atached to them they can sometimes suck open leaving you stuck on full throtle which will lead to girly sreams :roflol: and an expensive sounding clunk from your engine :mad2:

Hayden

I dont think its possible for suction to pull open a slide carb. You may be thinking of Keihen carbs with the diaphragm that opens the slide, but with mikuni's the slides are opened directly by the throttle cable, and have a pretty good return spring.

[freakboy]

this kid just bought a stock turbo from some type of vw from my freind i was thinking of buying it off him before he could. the inducer is like a inch wide lol the shaft had two much play for me tho. i woulda put it on my racin mower.

[anderkart]

In case any one's interested these restricter plates come in 3 graduated sizes, (purple, blue and gold) and they're instaled between the carb and engine to purposely lower power and speed in junior kart racing classes.

One of these would probably increase the velocity of the air-fuel mixture entering an engine but I'd think restricting the intake or exhaust at any point would only worsen the drawbacks of using an over sized turbo.

[lemegacool]

thanks for the inputs... but the turbo is just too big lol thats why i'm installing a smart turbo with a 3/4" inducer! thats gonna spool!

[freakboy]

WTF man thats freaking tiny, lol sounds like it was made for a 1 cyl

[Kaptain Krunch]

Have you seen a smartcar? there the size of a flippin golf cart.

This is gonna be sweet though, turbo shopping cart take 2...Now you need to add a storage compartment for your groceries!

[freakboy]

ROFL and yeah i have seen ONE smart car it was at some fair around here and they were trying to raffle it off. well i live in redneck ville. no one payed the 1dollar to try to win it. they asked my dad if he wanted to put in the raffle cause he woulda had a good chance to win hes like no way in hell i would drive that thing. they were like all insulted rofl.

[Rotore]

took your advice an bidded on a kkk kp31 off a smart...! i hope to win it cheap... NOW THE ****ER IS GONNA SPOOL...

i'm thinking about reducing the carb's size... effin too big for that engine...

LMAO Nice! Im about to start a turbo build myself dude. i got a turbo off a saab for 10 bucks. :cheers2:

BTW i been meaning to ask you how many cc's is your engine? Because when i get mine i'm thinking of something 300cc or bigger.

[lemegacool]

its a honda gx160 soooo about 160cc i would say.. yes buy thew bigger you'll find!

[Rotore]

hows 400cc sound?

[freakboy]

like sex thats how it sounds

[Rotore]

Yeap!!!!!!!!

[sideways]

I dont think its possible for suction to pull open a slide carb. You may be thinking of Keihen carbs with the diaphragm that opens the slide, but with mikuni's the slides are opened directly by the throttle cable, and have a pretty good return spring.

i dont know which kind of carbys ive just heard of it happening to slide ones, ive heard that somtimes once they are at WOT they get stuck there so yeah?? i think that was on blow through set ups though, not sure. perhaps just run it with out a chain the first time, just for safety??

thanks

Hayden

[lemegacool]

AAAAAAWWWWWWWWW look how its cute! LOl


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[maximumbob]

That is definitely the smallest turbo I have ever seen. Looks like a great time. Good luck and as always keep us posted.

[lemegacool]

That is definitely the smallest turbo I have ever seen. Looks like a great time. Good luck and as always keep us posted.

you can count on me! lol now i just need to install a new oil delivery setup...

[jr dragster Tyler]

That little turbo should scream on that motor hopefully:)

[skid20]

OMFG! What did you pull a turbo that small off of? I gotta find one now!

[Rotore]

its a kp31 off a smart car dude. i told u its more suitable for this setup.

[lemegacool]

AAAAARGGGHHHHH i cant wait to install it on my block to hear it spool lol.... come on ebay!!! ship me my silicone adapter!!!! LOL

[skid20]

its a kp31 off a smart car dude. i told u its more suitable for this setup.

You told me? It certainly is suitable!:D

[lemegacool]

i'll try it with the same carb... it will probably work better since this one will move alot more air... i'll probably have to repair the main jet as right now its enlarged to 3/32 LOL

[Kaptain Krunch]

WOW that thing is TINY! Turbo moped anyone? haha man that would be awesome on a small shifter kart.

[EagleTalons]

What internal mods do you have done with this engine?

[lemegacool]

What internal mods do you have done with this engine?

hmmmmmmm ahem nothing :o

i bought this : http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120468715600&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:CA:1123

gonna be sweet, and i'm gonna use the leftover the fix my leaky downpipe's flexible on my camry LOL

[EagleTalons]

The governor isn't even out of the engine?

[lemegacool]

disconnected but not removed... i know i'm playing with fire... i should really kick my lazy a$$ and open the engine...

i'll probably opent it up this winter... as i dont have a garage to play on it, i think i'll just remove the whole engine and work indoor on it...

it would be a great idea to look for wear... this engine lived on a industrial compressor before going on my kart... so he's REALLLY no new...

[Rotore]

You told me? It certainly is suitable!:D
lol not you i told lemegacool it would be better suited.

disconnected but not removed... i know i'm playing with fire... i should really kick my lazy a$$ and open the engine...

i'll probably opent it up this winter... as i dont have a garage to play on it, i think i'll just remove the whole engine and work indoor on it...

it would be a great idea to look for wear... this engine lived on a industrial compressor before going on my kart... so he's REALLLY no new...

do really have to go inside the engine and remove the govener or is disconnecting it good enough?

[lemegacool]

i should completely remove it... becaus the internal guts of the gov arent meant to operate a hight speed... and if they blow... well it will mess up the internals...

edit: wow 6192 views! keep it up! lol

edit : weeeee won a boost/vacuum gauge on ebay for 16$ shipped.... i really hope the needle will go at least to 0.5 psi lol

i'm also thinking about butchering the turbine housing to get rid of inutile metal and ports (like the wastegate and another port) will make it lighter and exhaust flow will go straight to the wheel rather than baffling in inutile chambers... TO THE ZIPCUT! lol ...dang no more zipcuts LLOL

sorry could not resist to take another pic

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG000012.jpg

[lemegacool]

i trimmed the turbine housing using a grinder... looks way better now and its more light!

tiny turbo porn

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG000013.jpg

****! my set of 6 crank gaskets costed me more than my boost gauge LOL

[freakboy]

**** man that things so ****ing tiny.

[lemegacool]

ok ... i kicked my lazy *** and completely removed the engine from the frame... :) drained the oil and cracked open the side cover (1'st time ever in this engine's life!) it looks absolutely lovely inside and i think i felt in love with my honda... so now i wamt to put reliability upgrades in it so it will hold up better the abuse....

here is my list:

ARC Billet Rod With Bearings

ARC Racing Billet Flywheel

Valve Spring, 18lb.

Flat Top Piston

Ring Set, Standard Bore

Wrist Pin, GX160/200

Wrist Pin Clips

total 215$

question is... would i need a standard bore piston or a + 0.10 , and file to fit ring kit or a std bore???

and is there missing things? like could i keep the stock piston or the flat head is recommended?

edit: wee got myself a set of feeler gauges and a torque wrench to properly build my engine... I'M GONNA CREATE A MONSTER!!! lol well not like tyler's rhino but oh well mine will be turbo;)

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[r_chez_08]

looks like new!

[Raywelder]

Check out this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOTORCYCLE-QUAD-RHINO-Turbo-BIKE-SEADOO-Small-IHI-RHB31_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQ hashZitem19b5edab26QQitemZ110426434342QQptZMotorsQ 5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[lemegacool]

Check out this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOTORCYCLE-QUAD-RHINO-Turbo-BIKE-SEADOO-Small-IHI-RHB31_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQ hashZitem19b5edab26QQitemZ110426434342QQptZMotorsQ 5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

yeah isaw it way before but its a little pricey... i got mine for 90 bucks shipped and it got no lateral play only .5 mm shaft play...

[Raywelder]

Where'd you buy yours.

[lemegacool]

Where'd you buy yours.

ebay :)


and i just finished getting the crank out of it.... DANG the flywheel is big and heavy (big thick cast iron bell) i think the billet flywheel will be a good add on...

the crank looks new , the cyl bore looks new (no kidding) the rod look new (but flimsy thats why i'm going for a billet rod...

i tapped the gov hole with a 1/4 tap and plugged it with a 1/4 bolt

removed the low oil sensor and tapped a 7/16 thread to plug it with a bolt

now i'm going to bring the case at work and clean the hell out of it :) (full of dirt, metal chips from tapping, gasket remains)


well i just placed an order at www.affordablegokarts.com ... finally i bought a std bore piston and a std bore ring kit... hope it will fit well threated myself and got a billet flywheel weeee

[EagleTalons]

Are you going to get some high lift rockers? Or perhaps a higher lift cam?

Also are you going to leave your governor arm in there? I took mine out. Looks smooth now!

[lemegacool]

Are you going to get some high lift rockers? Or perhaps a higher lift cam?

Also are you going to leave your governor arm in there? I took mine out. Looks smooth now!

what governor arm? oohhh wait its a old pic LOL i removed all the things ... and plugged holes

i thought about 1:2 ratio rockers but i just went d'ahh i dont need that... do i?:worried2:

[EagleTalons]

More lift = more air and gas into the chamber!

[lemegacool]

More lift = more air and gas into the chamber!

i just told them to add a set of 1:2 high lift rockers to my order... lol

[EagleTalons]

Awesome! You'll notice more power right out of the start now! Even without boost.

[lemegacool]

Awesome! You'll notice more power right out of the start now! Even without boost.

lol i know... the only thing i'm afraid now is the carb's size... oh well i'll try it with the old and i'll see...

oh and if you ever get a cone air filter be sure to get one that is made in fabric and not just a ****ing mesh... my carb was full of dirt... i'm surprised the cylinder looks that good! lol

omg when i'm finished with this i'm sooooooooo bringnin it to the local modified car show LOLOLOLOL... hmmm i wonder if this thig would be dyno-able... " and now on the dyno... a ****ing turbo shopping cart?!?!?!!" LOLOLOL


also the old manifolds / turbo / tank / carb was actually about the same wheight of the engine LOL
its gonne be wayyyyy more lighter now...

[jr dragster Tyler]

oh and if you ever get a cone air filter be sure to get one that is made in fabric and not just a ****ing mesh... my carb was full of dirt...

And what did I say the second I saw your filter like 2 months ago?:roflol: The Standered size piston and rings will be fine, But still check the ring end gap to be sure.

[lemegacool]

okok yeah i got a set of feeler gauges to do that!

yeah i know about the filter... i just didnt thought it was going to be THAT bad... wow imagine someone putting this into his car... lol

the more i'm thinking the more i think it would be great to run nitrous oxyde in it... muAHAHAHAH (i would put like a 50cc's engine jet to be safe...)

[Compnerd88]

This project is progressing nicely!

-Logan

[jr dragster Tyler]

A engine that use's nitrous oxide to boost HP relies on nitrous at WOT to run properly. You cant have a engine that runs good without the nitrous at WOT then just spray it. That's where severe engine damage occurs like cracked heads/blocks/melted pistons. Ever see a drag car have a nitrous malfunction? Just loads up with fuel.

[lemegacool]

A engine that use's nitrous oxide to boost HP relies on nitrous at WOT to run properly. You cant have a engine that runs good without the nitrous at WOT then just spray it. That's where severe engine damage occurs like cracked heads/blocks/melted pistons. Ever see a drag car have a nitrous malfunction? Just loads up with fuel.

hhmmmm thats kinda logic... well i guess i'll have enought with the turbo...

[Rotore]

hhmmmm thats kinda logic... well i guess i'll have enought with the turbo...

can never have enough dude i say go for it.

im experimenting with a 26hp vertical and thinking about also buying a kp31 to throw at it.

[lemegacool]

can never have enough dude i say go for it.

im experimenting with a 26hp vertical and thinking about also buying a kp31 to throw at it.

oooo yeah man do it... that 26 hp will spool it VERY well!!! even that i'll tell you to use a boost controller and gauge, and to reinforce the insides... i bought kinda expensive upgrades but i think ist wayyyy worth it... that way if my turbo ever produces boost in the intake i'll have fun without having to worry about exploding the rod or flywheel...

anyone knows what these ARC billet rods and flywheel can withstand?

[EagleTalons]

I've heard 8k rpm and 10k burst rpm...somewhere... Call AGK!

[lemegacool]

I've heard 8k rpm and 10k burst rpm...somewhere... Call AGK!

ok i just readed about it and it seems like that... well 8000 rpm begins to be very acceptable! lol

[lemegacool]

hehehe some teaser pics for you guys...

the block

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG_7985.jpg

sweet sweet bore look like new!

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG_7986.jpg

piston looks new as well

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new turbo intake assy
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hooray for small turbo LOL

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ultra cheap 15$ ebay boost gauge...

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LOOK THE TURBO FITS INSIDE THE CASE LOL :roflol:

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stainless custom oil tank with homemade 1/4 npt tank fittings lol

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engine guts

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annnnnd lemegacool's turbo gx 160 can begins soon lol as soon as i get my tools and parts to build the engine...lol


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[jr dragster Tyler]

Can you get me a close up on that cam profile, Also what does the lobe measure base to nose?

[lemegacool]

thanks for the help over msn tyler! so i gonna hone the bore to give it a new look!

[jr dragster Tyler]

No problem.

[lemegacool]

why did you wanted the cam height? to see if they were worn?

[jr dragster Tyler]

Cam profile just looked a bit radical for a stock engine.

[freakboy]

Are those snap on wrenches i spy?

[lemegacool]

Are those snap on wrenches i spy?

yes......... i mean no LOL they are canadian tire wrenches! :roflol: but they remove bolts as good as snap-on ones would ;)


also... just got my torque wrench in the mail

[lemegacool]

got my uni air filter... bought it from here :http://stores.shop.ebay.ca/therideshop__W0QQ_armrsZ1

awesome seller with good prices !

then thought my carb was going to be higher than the fuel tank ****!!! i need a pump... pm'ed kaptain krunch and he's gonna sell me one :) weeee

still waiting for the parts from agk... and tomorow i'm getting a honing tool

[freakboy]

Lol the handles are like my freinds snap on ones lol snap ons are nice as hell!!!!!!! lol but i do like craftsman better( i can afford em)

[lemegacool]

little teaser update LOL:

got all my tools to work on the engine... STILL waiting on agk's parts...

tools

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG_8001.jpg

45$ carquest cylinder hone

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before honing

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after honing

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intake assembly finished

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oh and can i use regular K&N air filter oil on the airfilter or it absolutely needs UNI foam filter oil???

[freakboy]

it shouldnt matter you can even add engine oil to the filter oil is oil and remember OILED IS BETTER THEN DRY!! theres more then one meaning behind that.

[lemegacool]

it shouldnt matter you can even add engine oil to the filter oil is oil and remember OILED IS BETTER THEN DRY!! theres more then one meaning behind that.

okok thanks!

[anderkart]

oh and can i use regular K&N air filter oil on the airfilter or it absolutely needs UNI foam filter oil???

I've ran both a k&N and a UNI. I thoroughly clean and re-oil my filters each race night and I've still found remnants of dirt in my carbs throat using either brand. Since I started using an Outerwear (http://www.outerwearsracing.com/) over my air cleaners I dont find any traces of dirt in my carb.

Almost all the Dirt oval kart racers I've ran across run a K&N with an Outerwear but I think UNI makes a great filter too.

[lemegacool]

I've ran both a k&N and a UNI. I thoroughly clean and re-oil my filters each race night and I've still found remnants of dirt in my carbs throat using either brand. Since I started using an Outerwear (http://www.outerwearsracing.com/) over my air cleaners I dont find any traces of dirt in my carb.

Almost all the Dirt oval kart racers I've ran across run a K&N with an Outerwear but I thinks UNI makes a great filter too.

thanks for the tip! i'll see for next summer as winter is coming and there is no dirt in winter LOL, but with the old air filter it was really gross inside the carb... sand buildup on the needle jet and all around inside the carb... i'm surprised the cylinder looked that good...

dont worry i'll oil the sucker up!!!

[anderkart]

Hey yer welcome man. If you shop around you can sometimes find those Outerwears as low as 10 bucks. (some places charge like $20 for em)

[Kenny_McCormic]

I always used straight 30 weight or gear lube on air filters.

[jr dragster Tyler]

Looks like a little too much hone tension going on there. Also don't forget, Never hone dry!

[lemegacool]

Looks like a little too much hone tension going on there. Also don't forget, Never hone dry!

the tension screw was in the middle position... i'll put less next time

amd i poured 5w-30 oil while honing... yeah it looks rough but its really smooth... my finger nail dont catch in it... anyway lol it was my 1'st hone job ever LOL

[jr dragster Tyler]

Should still do the trick.

[freakboy]

did u use a tourqe plate?

[lemegacool]

Should still do the trick.

i hope! :D

did u use a tourqe plate?

no... i just searched google to know what it was for LOL :roflol:

[jr dragster Tyler]

A torque plate isn't really necessary just for a quick cleanup of a bore.

[freakboy]

alright its still a good idea to use em. and when is this thing going to be freaking done?

[lemegacool]

alright its still a good idea to use em. and when is this thing going to be freaking done?

:roflol: i need parts to build the engine! lol ... stupid slow shipping...

[freakboy]

Use the previously used ones!!! lol and what did you buy?

[lemegacool]

Use the previously used ones!!! lol and what did you buy?

billet rod
billet flywheel
flat top piston
1:2 rockers
ring set
18 lbs valve springs
gasket set

:cheers2:

[freakboy]

nice but you forgot the agressive cam and the carb!!!!! one of the most noticable engine mods you can do and notice it is a new cam!!!

[lemegacool]

nice but you forgot the agressive cam and the carb!!!!! one of the most noticable engine mods you can do and notice it is a new cam!!!

well... i was more going into "durability" mods... with the new turbo i kinda hope it will make boost...
and for the carb i have a mikuni carb on the turbo... the jet is probably WAY too big but i'll see LOL

plus cams are kinda expensive... (coming from the guy who's turboing a feckin gx160) :roflol:

[freakboy]

lol if i do a mod to my 20 hp briggs its gona be a cam grind from g-team. and after that im gona go with new carb better port and polishing, and then other stuff.

[Rotore]

oooo yeah man do it... that 26 hp will spool it VERY well!!! even that i'll tell you to use a boost controller and gauge, and to reinforce the insides... i bought kinda expensive upgrades but i think ist wayyyy worth it... that way if my turbo ever produces boost in the intake i'll have fun without having to worry about exploding the rod or flywheel...


i ended up selling the turbo but i did put it on the engine but no spool but oh well.

next up is a off road kart probably twin dont no if i should go vert with a transaxle or horz but time will tell what ever i can find.

[lemegacool]

finally got my parts!!!! WEEEE was going to inslall them tonight but my set of 12 point sockets stops at 3/8 and i need 1/4 to work on the rod FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

oh well installed the new valve springs (18lbs) an 1:2 rockers... DANG the valves are MUCH stiffer now!

[freakboy]

how did you get the origonals out? and cant u use one of them converters?

[lemegacool]

your talking about the rod? stock one is regular hex head... billet one is 12 point head

[freakboy]

ok then i cant say ive ever seen a 12 point bolt head....

[lemegacool]

http://karlkuemmerling.com/store/media/189/18900000.jpg

[freakboy]

ummmmm really cant say i have seen them before ahahah im just use to normal ones.

[lemegacool]

just finished drilling and tapping a hole in the side cover for a 1/8 npt hose barb... pulse fitting! ;)


PICSPICSPICS!!!!



hmmm blillet

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG_8040.jpg

18 lbs valve springs and 1:2 ratio rockers

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pulse fitting

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do these rings look installed correctly?

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp345/lemegacool/IMG_8045.jpg

the new oil pump... an old oil burner pump... hehehe this one isn't gonna break!!

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billet PRON

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[Kenny_McCormic]

Replace that scary long bolt with an appropriate setscrew NOW.

[lemegacool]

Replace that scary long bolt with an appropriate setscrew NOW.

pwahahahaha sure lol i putted that there to not lose the coupler... as i lost the original setscrew... i'll bring back one from work ;)

[r_chez_08]

:drool5:shiny new billet! shame it gets hidden.

[lemegacool]

FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU seems that there is NOWHERE in here that sells 1/4 12 points sockets.... *SIGH* i had to have one ordered for 6$ through a industrial supply retailer... GOD ****!!! all that only to torque the ****ing rod... why do arc had the brillian idea of using ****ing 12 point bolt that no one haves a socket for!!! i do have a set of 12point sockets but it stops at 3/8.... i'm pissed, no engine work until i get my ****ing socket

[Kenny_McCormic]

High grade bolts, so your strong shiny rod has strong bolts.

[lemegacool]

High grade bolts, so your strong shiny rod has strong bolts.

ok but they do make hi-grade 6 point bolts too... oh well

thinking about painting the whole engine in hi-temp flat black paint any thoughts? i think it would look neat!

[freakboy]

Grade-8 bolts lol and i belive thats the reason ive never seen a 12 point bolt.....

I think the flat black would look alright so would ford blue!!!

[lemegacool]

Grade-8 bolts lol and i belive thats the reason ive never seen a 12 point bolt.....

I think the flat black would look alright so would ford blue!!!

nahhhh blue make too muck "clone" and i dont like clones ! LOL

[freakboy]

i guess lol then make it chevy engine red.

[t0x1k]

ok but they do make hi-grade 6 point bolts too... oh well

thinking about painting the whole engine in hi-temp flat black paint any thoughts? i think it would look neat!

Then sand off the paint on the fin edges for that Harley look.
http://www.ama-cycle.org/news/2005/images/HDevo.jpg

I want to do that to mine, but the rest of the kart looks like crap.

[lemegacool]

neat! will consider it!!

[jr dragster Tyler]

Your telling me about the socket lol. I even posted about me having troubles finding the socket in my clone buildup thread. we drove to about 3-4 different stores with no luck for 1/4x1/4x12pt only in 3/8" locally so I had to order and wait for a socket from Snap-On tools. That little socket was like $20.

[lemegacool]

Your telling me about the socket lol. I even posted about me having troubles finding the socket in my clone buildup thread. we drove to about 3-4 different stores with no luck for 1/4x1/4x12pt only in 3/8" locally so I had to order and wait for a socket from Snap-On tools. That little socket was like $20.

pwhahaha mine is a JET i paid 6$ for it LOL stupid 12 point socket...

lol so far i spent a good lot of money on tools for this engine LOL but hey! i'll have them for my next builds...

[Compnerd88]

I also just went through the 1/4" 12 point nonsence.....I also had to order one online.....got it for $5 shipped.

The day after I ordered it I went to work and we had one in the tool crib.....oh well

-Logan

[lemegacool]

i think ARC should either include a socket with their rod or change the bolts for grade 8 6 point bolts...

[t0x1k]

Hmm, wish I knew you guys needed them. I have a bunch of 6 point stuff thats useless to me.

[anderkart]

They probably used a 12 point bolt cause in small sizes like these the socket holds better than a 6 point would.

You guys are lucky you dont wrench on cars for a living. I cant count the number of times I needed some special tool, bought it (at a ridiculous price from Snap On) and then never needed to use the dam thing again.

[freakboy]

anderkart thats why you improvise! ahahah u need a ring compressor i use a sheet of aluminum and a hose clamp! or a oil filter wrench ahahah.

[Kenny_McCormic]

Sears should have the socket.

[jr dragster Tyler]

Try owning a car with all whitworth fasteners!

[anderkart]

Ha, I used to work with a dude that had a full set of whitworth wrenches and sockets. Seems like we only used them once in a while on vintage British stuff.

anderkart thats why you improvise! ahahah u need a ring compressor i use a sheet of aluminum and a hose clamp! or a oil filter wrench ahahah.

Oh... we improvised... :D

[lemegacool]

got the socket today XD! and assembled the engine....

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[lemegacool]

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[r_chez_08]

more billet! love the turbo sign on the fuel tank

[lemegacool]

more billet! love the turbo sign on the fuel tank

LOL thanks! yeah the emblem is bada$$ LOL

[freakboy]

needs more billet!

[lemegacool]

needs more billet!

no... enought money on that thing for now...

[freakboy]

MAKE BILLET MONIES! lol all this for a shoping kart ahahah i cant wait till this is running and you WILL post a vid!

[lemegacool]

i can bolt an aluminium bar somewhere to it... here you go more billet! LOL


also
do i look like the kind of guy that will not post a vid of this ... LOL

[freakboy]

No you look like the kinda guy who would post 32498140 vids of it lol.