B4 and after

[timmytim]

As you may already read on another thread I written, I am building a kart to race some friends of mine. They are both single and seem to have a endless budget but I on the other hand have limited funds. They went out and purchased racing karts and i bought the cheapest thing i could find. I'm converting it over to a live axle and going to run a yellow clone. I have most of the parts and just need to install everything.Here is some b4 pics and I will upload some after pics when Im finished!!
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[kibble]

Lookin' good! Although I question the whole "racing against a shifter" deal. :arf:

[timmytim]

Today I removed the gov. on my yellow clone and added a header and 18lb valve springs. That thang really sounds wicked and cant wait til i complete kart!!
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[Scorch3]

Nice kart but i think you're going to lose.

[timmytim]

Here is some pics of my progress..I used Airkraft stripper on the kart then borrowed a sand blaster and learned even with the sandblaster it was gona be tuff to remove but i ended up cleaning it up a bit then i painted it a gold rustoleum paint. I plan to buy a miller high life sticker and put down on the floor. And Im going to order a padded seat cover.....I also found online a really nice tach that I will mount in the steering wheel....http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000295643/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000295643/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000295643
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[Kaptain Krunch]

Man you have a small rear sprocket...If you ever hit top speed your gonna cruise. Is that a powerwheels i see in the background? you should totally put a chainsaw engine in it.

[timmytim]

Its a 40t sprocket..I plan to start out with a 14t clutch!!! lol@chainsaw on powerwheel
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[timmytim]

This is one of my buddies karts that im gona race

[jr dragster Tyler]

Yeah, good luck!

[Kaptain Krunch]

That race kart doesnt scare me, it doesnt even have an engine! haha no offense but your going to lose if thats gonna have a shifter engine in it.

By the way, i was serious about the chainsaw engine in the powerwheels...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM2SWNCes5g

[timmytim]

That race kart doesnt scare me, it doesnt even have an engine! haha no offense but your going to lose if thats gonna have a shifter engine in it.

By the way, i was serious about the chainsaw engine in the powerwheels...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM2SWNCes5g
kewl man nice video!!!

[timmytim]

Please excuse my ignorance on the subject because I thought shifter kart meant race kart.. My buddy’s karts will not shift. They will run the exact same engine as me, the Honda clone.
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[modelengineer]

Its a 40t sprocket..I plan to start out with a 14t clutch!!!

I think you should gear it much lower. ATM you have a 1:2.8 ratio... I would be wanting more like 1:5, unless you have REALLY small wheels.
With such a high ratio I doubt you will be able to accelerate fast at all, won't be able to do drifts, and you will probably ruin your clutch very quickly.

Get a 10 or 12 tooth clutch, so you don't need to get a MASSIVE rear sprocket when you discover it has no acceleration.

[timmytim]

I think you should gear it much lower. ATM you have a 1:2.8 ratio... I would be wanting more like 1:5, unless you have REALLY small wheels.
With such a high ratio I doubt you will be able to accelerate fast at all, won't be able to do drifts, and you will probably ruin your clutch very quickly.

Get a 10 or 12 tooth clutch, so you don't need to get a MASSIVE rear sprocket when you discover it has no acceleration.
If i go with a 12t clutch I want be able to get the top speed that i want but i will keep ure comments in mind...:thumbsup:

[Affair_driven]

...I want be able to get the top speed that i want...What top speed are you looking for?

[timmytim]

60mpr

[Kaptain Krunch]

60mpr

Good luck with that...6.5 clone wont be able to accelerate to 60 very fast, and your clutches wont last long. I had a dirtbike engine on my kart once, the engine put out around 6-8hp, geared for 60. the kart was about the size of yours, i weigh like 175 and the kart would bog down by the time i tried to get into 3rd and had very little acceleration. The faster i ever got it was like 30mph before it bogged down. I suggest gearing it for around 40mph tops.

[Scorch3]

Ya you should seriously re consider gearing. I have a feeling this race will be decided mostly by gearing choice so consider the type of race your going to have before you decide.

[timmytim]

but but i done loctited my hubs!!!haha

[Kaptain Krunch]

You can try it...just make a vid of your clutch burning up.

Dare you to touch it after you ride it for about half an hour...i did that once, i put some snow on it and it actually boiled the snow.

[r_chez_08]

the fastest really possible for a clone without a governor, and no major mods is about 45mph, and the torque/acceleration would be **** with a torque convertor it would get to 45 easier, but they are expensive!

[timmytim]

what tooth sprocket/clutch combo do yall recommend?

[r_chez_08]

check out this (http://www.diygokarts.com/speed-calculator)

i recommend a 1:4/5 with 10/12" wheels or a 1:6 with 14"wheels

[timmytim]

I know about the Calculater thats how I came up with gearing for 60mpr..I guess I will start out with a 12 on the clutch and see how that does.. I may end up going with a torque convertor setup.. Those torque convertors that say they have a built in jack shaft what exactly does that mean. I know what a jack shaft is persay but how is it built in on some?
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[03BLACKGT]

Well the "built in" ones are sold with a 2" or 3" rectangluar tube(box). The jack shaft is mounted through the tube(box) with 2 bearing. Then the motor is mounted on top of the tube(box). Its made so that you have the perfect distance between the drive and driven clutch assembly. All bolt on.

I know that might not have made any sense.. find some pictures and it will

[timmytim]

After researching this site and pondering a bit I decided to get a Comet Torque-A-Verter for my kart.... It will delay my project a few weeks but I think it will be worth it.....
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[modelengineer]

Should buy a motorbike engine. Costs about the same as a clone with torque converter, but is 100 times better.
You could get a motorbike engine for just the price of the torque converter, now that I think about it.

[theo]

Should buy a motorbike engine. Costs about the same as a clone with torque converter, but is 100 times better.
You could get a motorbike engine for just the price of the torque converter, now that I think about it.

Wow, bike parts are a lot cheaper where you live.

theo

[timmytim]

Yea motorcycle engine would be faster but i already have the yellow clone so need to stay with that. This project started out as jus a simple kart with maybe a brigs flatty but its keeps getting faster and faster...:drool5:

[Kaptain Krunch]

I'd say gear it for around 45, trust me on a lil kart 45 feels a lot faster.

[timmytim]

Hey guys check this kart out. A co-worker just gave it to me this morning.

[THE HUNTER]

aww, no fair! i wish someone would give me a free kart!!
all i can get is free lawn and garden equipment! lol

[timmytim]

yea its true what they say...one mans junk is another mans gold
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[timmytim]

if u look closely in one of the pics u can see that the front axle pivots on a shaft...

[Kaptain Krunch]

if u look closely in one of the pics u can see that the front axle pivots on a shaft...

Thats called steering :thumbsup:


good find...best i can do is a 10 dollar sled, and a few free law mowers :worried2:

[timmytim]

Ha-ha it’s hard to explain and see from the pics but it isn’t ure normal ridged frame because the front straight axle is mounted on via a stud or shaft that allows the axle to pivot up and down much like a suspension should..
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[Kaptain Krunch]

I think i know, what you mean, most ride on mowers have the setup im thinking of

[kart_racer20]

how big of a trac are ya racing on? if it's a small bull ring you'll want a 12-72 for gearing on a 1/7 mile track you'd want a 12-60 anf for 1/5 mile track you'll want a 15/55 i wouldn't use a tork-a -verter it could burn up on racing karts they don't run tork converters get a good shoe clutch like a max-tork that has an adjustable setting and with the right setting it is capable of excelarating better than a car and will snap ya back in the seat some.i hope this will help some

[timmytim]

Guys ive had a change in plans since i got the red kart from my co worker....The gold kart that ive been building i plan to paint pink, put a flatty on it and give it to my wife. The red kart that i got from my co worker i plan to put my honda clone on it and paint it gold. i have all the parts and i will post pics when im finish!!
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[Kaptain Krunch]

alrighty then... You remind me of.......me, sometimes ill change plans so fast that i dont even know what im doing.

[timmytim]

I just finished painting the gokart Im building for my wife and daughter.. I should be getting the flat head friday so I should have it running at least by saturday..oh i also took the 40t off and put a 60t on it....... Then I will start on the one my co worker gave me!!!
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[timmytim]

Hey fellows its taking me a little longer than first thought to get my karts running! This recession is killing me. :confused: Anyways th dude at work that Im buying the flat head from keeps forgetting to bring it.As soon as he brings it i will complete my daughters kart.I had a lot of fun putting the live axle on it. Ive also sandblasted/painted the kart my co worker gave me. I painted it gold!!!! I will fit on this one much better...
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[timmytim]

Well it took a lot longer than I had planned but I finished my kart today and let me tell yas it will haul @ss!!! check out the pics.....And thanks for all the advice you guys have given me it help so much.....:wai::wai::wai::wai:
:cheers2::cheers2::cheers2::cheers2:

[1992suburban]

so you put a TAV on it. whats your top speed?

show us some video!!

looks good need SEATPADDING

what brake setup are you running>

[r_chez_08]

looks like fun! needs padding tho.
y dont u use the engine from the kart you were given on your wife/daughters kart?

[timmytim]

looks like fun! needs padding tho.
y dont u use the engine from the kart you were given on your wife/daughters kart?
use her engine for what?

[timmytim]

yall should have seen my first run. A pin that holds the throttle feed on hung the throttle wide open and i went for a ride until i remembered about the kill switch...:rolleyes3::rolleyes3::D:ack2::roflol::ro flol:

[timmytim]

O i forgot to tell yas that i finally got the flatty for my wifes kart..its a real good running motor.I had a problem though.I was trying to force my new 3/4 clutch on it and ended up breaking the cast in keyway on the clutch..After futher examination I realized that the shaft on the flatty was a dang gum 1 inch shaft. So Im building my funds back up so I can get them a new clutch.I will post some pics of it friday and maybe a video of my kart.:wai::wai::wai::wai::wai::wai::wai::wai::wai: :wai::wai:

[timmytim]

I finally figured out how to upload video.....check it out im running 43mpr.predy good for a fat boy? its also real quick off the line:cheers2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbhpJPZeCDM

[timmytim]

Here is the pic of my daughters kart with the flatty..And also one of my sons kart!!!:cheers2:

[EagleTalons]

Now that is one happy kid! He is lucky to have a dad that is into karting.

[Kaptain Krunch]

Man, your just a kartin family! very nice.

[timmytim]

haha yea we are. I got a project to do on my boys kart. it has a dead leg so i plan to add a straight axle like i did on my daughters kart.also im gona put some big nobby tires on the back:cheers2:

[timmytim]

well the first race was today and i was smoked! my kart takes off much faster than my friends but after i hit top speed he drives on by!!!! jackshaft gear is a 12 so maybe i go to a 14 tooth n see if that help top end:auto:

[timmytim]

I got my 14 tooth sprocket today and tried it out. I forgot to air up the rear tire so I will have the check the speed again another day but it runs 45 with a flat!!!:cheers2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in2lnb9t80c