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g racer
02-07-2009, 01:05 AM
what is a cheap eletric start engine for a gokart or how can i make a 5hp briggs eletric start

BradenM
02-07-2009, 01:49 AM
To the best of my knowledge you can't bolt an electric start onto a B&S 5hp, however, you could do it Ghetto style; electric motor to the flywheel instead of the recoil housing, but this I do not recommend.

oscaryu1
02-07-2009, 06:50 AM
6.5HP Clone.

r_chez_08
02-07-2009, 07:07 AM
:iagree:
for the price, the 6.5 hp honda clone is the way to go

Kenny_McCormic
02-07-2009, 02:32 PM
Why electric start? Cool yes but go karts are high maintenance machines that tend to break a lot, one more thing to mess with.

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 03:32 PM
one more thing to mess with....not to mention the extra weight.
Real men use rope/cup starters. Cheap, light, and cannot fail...ever.

jr dragster Tyler
02-07-2009, 03:49 PM
Real men use rope/cup starters

Actually real men use kick starters.

modelengineer
02-07-2009, 04:01 PM
Kick starter FTW!


(Mine is electric start :arf: )

g racer
02-07-2009, 04:21 PM
how can i make it electric start then i never worry about the waight on the cart it is just for the yard im not raceing it it is just for play i just hate geting up and pull pull pull until it cranks i just want to to push the button or turn the key and it starts plz im just a house mecanic

ed1380
02-07-2009, 04:22 PM
...not to mention the extra weight.
Real men use rope/cup starters. Cheap, light, and cannot fail...ever.

i had a tec with the starter cup. i hated it. poorly designed. my fav so far would have to be the briggs recoil ball clutch thing

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Actually real men use kick starters.How would you know???:roflol:
my fav so far would have to be the briggs recoil ball clutch thingBriggs recoils are good but do have one drawback. On occasion I've had the need to turn crankshaft in clockwise direction. Can't be done with recoil in place. It's a minor thing, but still bugs me. As far as I know, Briggs owns the rights to this system and therefore is/was the only manufacturer to use it.

jr dragster Tyler
02-07-2009, 04:36 PM
How would you know???
Yeah you know theres more to 2 strokes than pull start lawnboys. And because I'm man enough to start a 250 2 stroke with a fresh top end.

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 04:44 PM
Yup...you be da the man Mr. Tyler.:o

jr dragster Tyler
02-07-2009, 04:49 PM
Lol good. I'm taller than you haha!:wai:

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 05:13 PM
...the harder they fall.

Kenny_McCormic
02-07-2009, 05:26 PM
My dad has an old tecumpseh kick starter from the 50s, real neat, he has a few cast iron block 5hp tecs from the same time period that the kicker will fit (2 loose ones and a tiller model mounted on a tiller that does the garden every once in a while). Old iron FTW.

I dont like the briggs clutches, enigne backfires? Broken rope. Let it sit for a long time? Clutch seizes too shaft. I prefer the hand wound rope starters over everyhting else, only part that can break(rope+handle) can be made in less than 10 minutes.

g racer
02-07-2009, 07:57 PM
so how can i do it make it electric start

BradenM
02-07-2009, 08:07 PM
Tune your engine better and it will start better. If you really really really want to make it electric start, I would suggest you post some pictures of the motor with the flywheel housing removed.

Real men kick start motors with their teeth.

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 08:11 PM
Don't know that it can be done. Might require specific block that will accept a self starter. May just need mouting hardware. Someone else may know.
Flywheel will have to changed, circuitry added, as well as a place for mounting battery. Do you want a charging system as well? Add an alternator/regulator.

Kenny_McCormic
02-07-2009, 08:15 PM
E start was never offered that I know of.

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 08:24 PM
I know they got 'em. Just don't know requirements for mounting.
Briggs 5hp starter:

BradenM
02-07-2009, 08:24 PM
I think perhaps having a geared ATV like-starter would perhaps work in conjunction with a jackshaft or 2, but It would be unnecessarily complicated. If you wanted to prove it could be done, go ahead, but it you just want to turn the key and go, the 6.5 electric start is what you need.

Kenny_McCormic
02-07-2009, 08:25 PM
Would require a special block. Problem with the 6.5s is you gotta run em box stock, no modding cause your stuck with that flywheel. Unless ARC will make a geared flywheel for you.

ZnsaneRyder
02-07-2009, 08:48 PM
All due respect DIY karters, drop the stinking egos and just help the guy out, holy hell!

REAL MEN help a brother out!

http://www.powerlandonline.com/product/PD200E?meta=FRG&utm_source=GBASE&utm_medium=CPC&utm_content=&utm_campaign=

Here you go, $205 for an Electric Start 6.5HP clone. Electric start is great! It also saves wear & tear on your pull-starter so you ONLY use it when needed. You can thank me by clicking the thanks button!

Russ2251
02-07-2009, 09:04 PM
holy hell!Such language!!!
You can thank me by clicking the thanks button!
...oh yeah, thanks.:roflol:

jr dragster Tyler
02-08-2009, 03:42 PM
With all due respect I do belive he wanted to make his readily avaible 5 hp briggs electric start and not pay $205 for a clone. Now I know my Tecumsea 5 hp has 2 mounting screws on the block and a geared flywheel. I think it was a 120 VAC starter though.

BradenM
02-08-2009, 05:33 PM
Easiest way to mod a motor without the geared flywheel is probably having a geared jackshaft, both with a clutch, and with your electric motor attached. This is easier then lengthening a stock output shaft.

(Off Topic, but the Recoil starter on a Victa is actually geared into the flywheel, via flywheel teeth...electric project?)

robin
02-08-2009, 06:32 PM
get a sprocket press a one way bearing onto it then slip that over your engine shaft then connect this sprocket to suitable electric motor then you also have the problem of you batter going dead

imo it would be cheeper to get an electric start engine in the first place and i am sure it would work much better

ZnsaneRyder
02-08-2009, 07:47 PM
With all due respect I do belive he wanted to make his readily avaible 5 hp briggs electric start and not pay $205 for a clone.

Read the first post again Tyler:
what is a cheap eletric start engine for a gokart or how can i make a 5hp briggs eletric start

For the hassle and $$$ of modifying and adding a starter to the 5HP B&S, the Electric Start 6.5HP clone would do the job better. $205 is cheap for a well equipped 6.5. Especially for a karting newbie in this case.

However, if someone wants to fill the original poster in the proper way to mod his briggs, I'm all for it. It was just the egotistical comments of what a REAL man means, which is nothing but a bunch of society nonsense, and was not helping at all with the post.

ZnsaneRyder
02-08-2009, 07:50 PM
Easiest way to mod a motor without the geared flywheel is probably having a geared jackshaft, both with a clutch, and with your electric motor attached. This is easier then lengthening a stock output shaft.

I agree completely! If he has the room to add a jackshaft, that would be great.

ZnsaneRyder
02-08-2009, 07:52 PM
Such language!!!



I was being easy on the language by only saying hell. I am a grown 26 year old adult, and say what I want to say, but I was keeping it on the easy side because there's obviously kids here. LOL

This is a DIY karting forum, and we need to be open-minded and offer help more to our members. I feel it necessary to be expressive to prove a point.

Russ2251
02-08-2009, 07:56 PM
I answered him as best I could.

kibble
02-08-2009, 11:01 PM
I wouldn't bother trying to make the 5HP an electric start (just opinion), if you have the money, and just get the clone with it built in.

And just for the LOLz, Real men are members called Kibble... :roflol:

g racer
02-09-2009, 09:38 AM
we the ting is i have a realy cheap buget

r_chez_08
02-09-2009, 11:17 AM
if u already have the briggs, keep it as it is. if not buy a honda clone. best engine for the price.

Kenny_McCormic
02-09-2009, 02:11 PM
we the ting is i have a realy cheap buget

Then avoid electric start!

thgrahamjr
02-09-2009, 06:35 PM
G racer basicly what everyone is trying to tell you is that there is no cheap way to convert the 5hp engine you have to an electric start. I know you already have that engine but with the money you will spend trying to convert that engine you could buy a Honda clone with E-start for about the same amount.

Kenny_McCormic
02-09-2009, 07:03 PM
E start is nothing but trouble, its another(rather delicate) thing to break on a machine that likes to break a lot. Go karts are rather high maintenance things. Pushing a button is cool but is it worth all the batteries you will rattle apart?

BradenM
02-09-2009, 09:21 PM
:iagree: (thegrahamjr)

jr dragster Tyler
02-10-2009, 02:29 PM
is it worth all the batteries you will rattle apart?
Is it true batteries rattle apart? Cause Im going to use a $100 deep cycle wheel chair battery for my kart.

ed1380
02-10-2009, 03:51 PM
does it have to be a $100 deep cycle battery? cant it be just a deep cycle battery?

Kenny_McCormic
02-10-2009, 04:46 PM
Deep cycle wont cause its got solid plates.