i want to...

[sayre315]

i want to get a welder but i dont want to spend a holatta money

i realy wish i could find a cheap 110-120 flux wire welder for around 100$ but i cant

is a stick welder harder to use than a flux wire welder
and wich has cleaner welds?

[Kenny_McCormic]

A stick welder with infinite amperage control will make cleaner better looking welds compared to a wirefeed with two amperage settings, but it takes more skill to weld stick. You can get a flux core wire welder for $100, just go to a tool sale the next time one is in town.

[sayre315]

wich do you sujest a 13 year old kid like me get?

[gocartkid]

I would go for a mig as your first welder. Easier to work with and more forgiving. Also very adjustble with the wire speed and desired heat. Works great on automotive sheet metal too, I'm welding up some holes on a '55 chevy p/u with the one I have. :thumbsup:

[sayre315]

well its for thick pipe and other stuff
not 1/8'' crap

[Kenny_McCormic]

I would go for a mig as your first welder. Easier to work with and more forgiving. Also very adjustble with the wire speed and desired heat. Works great on automotive sheet metal too, I'm welding up some holes on a '55 chevy p/u with the one I have. :thumbsup:

Good luck getting a full mig setup for $100. Your probably best off with used stick welder if your house is wired for it, dont bother with a 110volt unit get a 220 volt in the 200 amp range if your getting a stick welder.

[sayre315]

do you mean like a washer and dryer plug in?

[jr dragster Tyler]

yep

[sayre315]

sweet

we have one rite by the gerage

[Kenny_McCormic]

But it has to be a 50 amp, 30 amp wont do. Most of the 50 amps are found in kitchens for electric stoves, but im lucky to have a 50 amp outlet in the laundry room and have a custom extension cord with the dryer plug on one end and a welder outlet on the other.

[sayre315]

but we'r talking about the big round plug about 2-2 1/2'' diam.?

[Kenny_McCormic]

but we'r talking about the big round plug about 2-2 1/2'' diam.?

Yea, but check the fuse box (might need to lift the lid off) to see if its fused for 50 amps or not.

[sayre315]

o found a 160 amp stick welder for $50 at EZpawn, it need a new plug but other than that its fine

good deal?

[fluxcored]

Know what the duty cycle of your unit is - you do'nt want to spend all that green and burn the machine out.

Get safety gear as well; it's cheap and worth it.

Also invest in a small grinder and some cutting, grinding + flap disks.

Enjoy!

[fluxcored]

Know what the duty cycle of your unit is - you do'nt want to spend all that green and burn the machine out.

Get safety gear as well; it's cheap and worth it.

Also invest in a small grinder and some cutting, grinding + flap disks.

Enjoy!

[Kenny_McCormic]

160amp will be fine for cart building, good deal if it works. Just remember, when dealing with welders the bigger and heavier the better.

[sayre315]

well i was about to buy some $5 goggles cuz i dont feel like spending $20 for a mask
but my uncle told me that i probebly should hold out and save up for a flux wire welder

i know its easyer but does it make better welds and is it worth the extra money?

[oscaryu1]

well i was about to buy some $5 goggles cuz i dont feel like spending $20 for a mask
but my uncle told me that i probebly should hold out and save up for a flux wire welder

i know its easyer but does it make better welds and is it worth the extra money?

Heh, you need a mask to weld. Unless you want to go blind...

If you have a Harbor Freight near you, might wanna check out those welders. They give you a cheap hand-held mask with it! :)

[sayre315]

oh lol

[sayre315]

so what would you guys sujest i get
i realy dont want to alot of money, i want to be able to spend as little as i can but i want a welder that i cant use

should i get flux wire or arc?

[fluxcored]

If you want a Mig rather invest your money in one that can take gas as well - never saw any benefits in gasless Migs.

Some say Mig are easy, I doubt that - same level of effort needed to become skilled as that for arc welding.

Fluxwire on thin stuff is stupid - you do'nt want to use chipping hammers on thin stuff to remove flux + it's a hotter process than other gas welding.

Go for stick welding, cheap + more versatile than MIG. I've got arc, oxyacetylene, mig and tig welders and have'nt touch my Mig in 3 years. Prefer arc + oa myself.

[sayre315]

so you guys are saying that i should probebly get a stick welder?

[gocartkid]

It's all personal preference. :thumbsup:

[sayre315]

but as a first welder what would you guys get?

[Kenny_McCormic]

If money is no object: a nice mig welder
On a budget: used stick

[sayre315]

i am on a budget so i think im getting the $50 one at the EZpawn