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redcali
04-06-2008, 03:57 AM
with your electronic throttle, if thats what it is and im looking at it right! is that kind of thing hard to set up? does there need to be like no resistance where the motor pulls the throttle cable on the engine?

or can you just get a really strong motor? because i have a couple lying around. do i just need something like that 3pronged switch? or is there a circuit board to it aswell?

kibble
04-06-2008, 12:49 PM
Redcali, I made a board that controls an R/C servo for my throttle. a metal linkage connects the throttle on the carb to the servo. The electronic throttle device you saw in the pic is a 5K potentiometer, it's not a switch. Here's a few pics of what the system looks like. The servo moves according to how much I move the pot and to match it's location. The servo is not currently attached to the throttle because I need to replace the gaskets on the carb. No, I will not be using alligator clips when it's all done :p

redcali
04-06-2008, 04:48 PM
did you just 'know' how to do it or is there instructions on the net somewhere? i had a look last night but came up with nothing :(

kibble
04-06-2008, 04:54 PM
Well, I knew what to do, but I used a schematic I found online for the circuit board. You're most likely not gonna find any instructions online for adding a servo to your engine and speaking from experience, it's not that easy either. I had a hard time trying to figure out where to mount it.

redcali
04-06-2008, 08:11 PM
yea i thought if it was a common thing instead of just cable driven thered be plenty of 'how to's'. with the setup i have no plenty of resistance is created by the bends and length of cable so thought this mightve worked. might try it in the distant future. goodjob with your though! looks very neat!

kibble
04-08-2008, 09:49 PM
Thank you, Red!:thumbsup:

Here's new pics for your viewing pleasure.

I got the Throttle assembly done today and it works well. I put a screw with a spring on the lever that moves the potentiometer so that I can adjust the idle. A larger spring returns the potentiometer to the idle position. A thin rod made of spring steel attaches the lever on the potentiometer to the gas pedal.

Theres another picture of the completed brake pedal. I put a spring in place that returns the pedal to it's regular position, a clip on the other side prevents the pedal from going back too far.

The last picture shows the two pedals and how they look now.

The only things left to do before I test drive on Saturday is make a mount for the battery, Attach the steering wheel properly, put in an off switch for the engine and harden the pedals. Can't think of much else that needs to be done at the moment.

Russ2251
04-08-2008, 09:58 PM
Post a video of first run!:thumbsup:

jr dragster Tyler
04-09-2008, 06:25 AM
Is that an aluminum bracket holding the spring welded to steel?!

kibble
04-09-2008, 08:34 AM
LOL, no, it isn't aluminum. What, you thought I could do miracles?:Angel_anim:

@ Russ, Yeah, I'll surely get a video of the first run. :auto:

2or3wheels
04-09-2008, 08:54 PM
cant wait a master cylinder for the brake AND a electronic throttle whats next? a jet engine?

ironman
04-09-2008, 09:26 PM
hey kibble dont forget to double check every bolt i know you got alot in that kart man just want to make sure you dont forget nothing.

Russ2251
04-09-2008, 09:31 PM
Probably could use economy sized bottle of Loctite 271.

JerryAssburger
04-10-2008, 01:01 PM
Between this project and all the others making their way through this website, I can't wait to see this stuff go! As hard as it would be to organize, it'd sure be fun to see all this stuff in one place together. Maybe The Discovery Channel will foot the bill? Rent an pld airstrip out in New Mexico?... Yeah, I know- dreaming. NICE WORK, Kibble!

2or3wheels
04-10-2008, 03:21 PM
if only right?

kibble
04-10-2008, 05:08 PM
Oh, that would be the coolest thing, if Discovery were to sponsor something to have a special on their channel about DIY builders out there and the stuff we have made. They have all those other "Pro" shows like the Monster Garage and stuff. Would be cool if they did one of just us regular people.

@ Russ, Loctite 271 is the permanent stuff. I'm gonna use the removable stuff for now cuz I'm planning on completely tearing down my kart later so I can paint it.

@ Ironman, I'm gonna put threadlock on the bolts so the vibration doesn't easily knock them loose.

@ 2or3wheels, next is a paint job :P

ironman
05-16-2008, 10:43 PM
kibble how wide and long is you kart.i haven some issue with my new kart i built it wants to jerk to the right and left alot hard to control was wondering if yours was?

Magice
05-17-2008, 04:00 PM
what size are the axles / differential? how do they connect?

kibble
05-18-2008, 10:22 PM
Ironman, I don't remember off the top of my head, I'll measure them tomorrow, but I think it was like 36" wide. I don't remember how long.

Magice, the axles are 1". I took a differential out of an old Nissan Sentra and I got someone to machine the CV joints for me so that they would have a 1" bore to accept the axle, which I cut in two pieces. I'll take some detailed pics after I take it all apart to paint it.

ironman
05-30-2008, 08:40 AM
I wouldn't think so because it's still being supported evenly. The spacer is just there to keep it from shifting around or being too close to the frame.

Here's a pic of the brake system completely done with the disks in place and the differential back in place. I put brake fluid into it today, as can be evidenced by the slight purple tinge on the brake lines, and it works just as it should!

in this picture what is the gold thing in the middle at the top of the drive train it looks like the hub for a band brake but you got disc. on there just was woundering.:confused:

kibble
05-30-2008, 08:47 AM
Ironman, that's the clutch.

I like karts
05-30-2008, 08:54 AM
Wow you have like 50 pillowblocks in your drive system

ironman
05-30-2008, 08:59 AM
what? hum.. thats a wired place to put it never would have thought of that.

JerryAssburger
05-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Kibble you need a Mario Suit (or one of those plastic giant Marios that Nintendo has, put it on, load your kart with bananas, red and green shells... and... you get the picture! 200cc class!

kibble
05-31-2008, 12:57 AM
Wow you have like 50 pillowblocks in your drive system

51

what? hum.. thats a wired place to put it never would have thought of that.

Well, it has a 3/4" input and a same sized output. I couldn't put it straight onto the crankshaft because the shaft is a funky size.

Kibble you need a Mario Suit (or one of those plastic giant Marios that Nintendo has, put it on, load your kart with bananas, red and green shells... and... you get the picture! 200cc class!

Man, it's hard enough on the 150! :arf:
We all know I'd have to get the item box before I got any of that stuff! *keeps fingers crossed for spiky blue shell*

ed1380
05-31-2008, 06:43 AM
nice kibbles. whered you get the brakes and dif from?
arent you worried about keeping the diff open like that?

I like karts
05-31-2008, 08:49 AM
*keeps fingers crossed for spiky blue shell*


or lightning....or triple red shell...woot mariokart!

kibble
05-31-2008, 10:30 AM
nice kibbles. whered you get the brakes and dif from?
arent you worried about keeping the diff open like that?

I got the brakes on ebay and the diff from an old Nissan Sentra.

Yes, I want to make something to cover it up. Just haven't figured out how to yet.

ironman
05-31-2008, 03:09 PM
time.....is all you got you been building for a year .i know you don't ride it much so i know your not busy fixing any thing on it.and you work in a office like me so time is all we got kibble.ill bring a couple of 12 packs over and drive to cali. for the weekend and we will finish the kart up than race them ill than win and take both karts back home with me:biggrinjester:

kibble
05-31-2008, 03:40 PM
Ironman this one's for you man: :out:

Who say's you're gonna win? :roflol: What you should have said is: "When YOU win kibble, I'll go home ashamed that I don't have any of my karts anymore cause we raced for pinks." :arf:

Man, I wish I had time! When I'm not working at my regular job, which is 8-5 M-F, I'm working on something else for someone else. Like computers or other things. I have a laptop I picked up yesterday that someone wanted work done on. My current project right now is trying to get my car PC done. Today I trimmed a bush outside of the house that was growing just a little too big, I went and got a couple of the tires on my car replaced cuz they were going bald, I cut my hair, went to the auto parts store to get air filter cleaner, I have to do laundry. Later on I'm supposed to go to dinner with a friend. Tomorrow I'm supposed to go to someone else's house to go check and see what's up with their computer, if I have time. I'm still waiting for someone who supposedly needed some help with their computer...etc..etc...etc... It never stops!!! :mad2: :rolleyes3:

ed1380
05-31-2008, 08:04 PM
cut out the dinner w/ a friend. it doesnt sound that important :wink2:

kibble
05-31-2008, 10:09 PM
Well she never called about it anyway. So, no dinner. At least I got to finish a few things in my car.

ironman
06-01-2008, 10:07 PM
just let the hair grow that might help you and might give you a edge in the race:out: .ill even give you a 2 kart head start.:surrender:

kibble
06-01-2008, 10:51 PM
just let the hair grow that might help you and might give you a edge in the race:out: .ill even give you a 2 kart head start.:surrender:

Nah man! Haven't you ever heard of people that shave every hair off their body to reduce drag while swimming or in other sports? I'll shave everything off too and that will make me more aerodynamic so that I'll leave you munching dust and making you regret that you ever showed up to this so called "race" which would have turned out to be more of a massacre. :arf: :roflol:

ironman
06-02-2008, 08:55 AM
im...........speechless..........:surrender:

ed1380
06-02-2008, 10:35 AM
:2guns:

kibble
06-02-2008, 11:36 AM
ha ha! Funny stuff, would be pretty cool if we could have an actual race though.